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codswallop · 27/08/2003 12:12

why will my 5 mth old not sleep through?
e=ven only one eed a night would be nice.

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lubu · 26/09/2003 13:15

Bubble popped - woke at 10.30 and then again at 4.30 but then slept through until 7.30am. There is definately a tooth under gum though so using that as an excuse at the moment!

motherinferior · 26/09/2003 14:12

Bit difficult to tell here - I think we got the old core night again, after a truly awful wailing earlier; in fact I fed her lateish (around 11.30) so we got till 7am - but her dear sister woke up in the small hours; dp dealt with it, said baby was awake but I think that's just because anyone not in deep sleep would wake up to loud cries of PIGLET'S FALLEN OUT DADDY GET PIGLET.

I think things are moving. Sort of.

jedy · 26/09/2003 15:35

congrats lubu! we have second one growing and ds wakes bit more often- 2 or 3 times but it's not excuse not to settle himself back, he does

myersthecat · 26/09/2003 15:42

Sleep! What's that!?!

Thought you signed it away like your soul to the devil when you gave birth......
they dress it up as a medical requirement but I know what it really was!!

lubu · 27/09/2003 17:21

Well done Jedy! Looks like we have both cracked it. DD slept all the way through to 6.45am last night and she is also settling herself back down again when she wakes in the night. Have got a christening to go to tomorrow so it will be nice going out and feeling refreshed for once

codswallop · 27/09/2003 18:34

thre times last noght!

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motherinferior · 28/09/2003 09:46

I suppose the Inferiority Complex is slowly moving towards 'normality' but whenever I feed her in the evening doesn't seem to affect her wakeup time. Fed at 11.30, up at 5am. Do they have a growth spurt around 13 weeks - they do, don't they? No idea wossgoingon.

lubu · 28/09/2003 19:30

Will keep my big gob shut in furture. Was up from 10.30pm to somewhere past 1.00am with her. Felt like a zombie all day

Rubbed it in when friend said how her dd has been sleeping through since 5 weeks old, why can't I have one like that?

Maybe my little dd will be Prime Minister one day, she certainly has a bit of the Margaret Thatcher in her

codswallop · 28/09/2003 20:25

DO NOT BELIEVE THEM what they mean is that theior kid is up till midnight and then sleeps for 5 hours. I call a night 12 hours.

Still no Joy with Charles who refuses to obey the prededent set by his brothers.

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codswallop · 28/09/2003 20:28

Ps I had a thread related to growth spurts here somewhere..

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codswallop · 28/09/2003 20:31

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1364&threadid=7289&stamp=030720223045

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geegeesmum · 28/09/2003 22:00

Hope you don't mind me joining in - I have been reading this thread for a while now - usually at 3 am which is when my dd (5 and a half months) usually wakes up ! Decided to contribute as all my friends (from NCT classes) with babies of similar age are sleeping thru, so this thread has helped me feel like I am not alone....THANKS ! Am giving her until 6 months before trying dreaded controlled crying (which I have kind of tried a few times but wimped out of).......am hoping tonite is the night as she has now been on baby rice for 4 days ! She goes down at 8pm like a dream but wakes up at around 3 and then may or may not wake up again between 3 and 7. Lst night was the worst as she was up at 3 then again at 4.30 (I decided she could not possibly be hungry so we had a battle of wills for 45 mins with me ineptly trying contolled crying....before I fed her..wont be doing that again for a while), then again at 6am. havent quite worked out why so many wakings last night -and now I have to go as I hear her waking now !!!!! AAAARGH......

lubu · 28/09/2003 22:23

It can be so difficult sometimes can't it? I keep blaming teeth, growth spurts, myself (tried blaming dh but as he pointed out he is rarely here at nights)! etc etc. Last night I made sure that she was clean, full, right temp, gave her calpol for teeth etc and then when she sat there laughing at me at 12.30am I decided she was taking the and decided to leave her to cry. Felt like a really bad mother as I shut myself away for 30 minutes and then went back. As I walked up the stairs she gave two sobs and went to sleep!

Maybe growth spurts put them into the habit of waking frequently and so it goes on??

My mother's favourite statement at the moment is "well it doesn't last forever" - no help at all really but probably true.

lubu · 28/09/2003 22:27

Reading Codswallop's thread at least we have got at least 6 months before they have another growth spurt.

Dh was very sceptical about the claims regarding sleeping through at 5 weeks as well and managed to calm me down as we drove home.

kaz33 · 28/09/2003 23:20

Welcome geegeesmum - controlled crying hurts but it does work - did with DS1 and has worked with DS2 to get him to sleep at 7pm. Can you get the baby out of your room, have a glass of whisky and take a couple of asprin and hopefully you will sleep through the whole thing and he'll never do it again.

DS2 is 4 months old - he's fed whilst still asleep at 10.30/11pm ish and then wakes up once presently at about 5am, put back to sleep and then sleeps till 7amish. Since I have stopped feeding him at night - he adjusted immediately and takes the same amount of food during the day. I am on formula so can check easily, obviously it is more difficult on breast milk. So geesgeesmum it is worth a try and believe me when you get your nights back...... life looks so much more rosy.

jedy · 29/09/2003 14:05

definitly (spel?) don't believe them and yes, i think growing and new discoveries can wake them up, don't give in!
welcome geegeesmum! what age isshe? try to make up your mind what the reason is, i know it,s not easy, but will give you confidence with the way you deal

lazyeye · 29/09/2003 14:55

Aloha, and everyone - thanks for the advice. Will print out & give to me mate.

Funnily 'nuff, she has had a bug (which all our kids seem to have had) and stopped giving her diary products for 24 hours because of the sickness. She had a much better night. Did the same again next might, better again. I haven't heard from her for a couple of nights, but just maybe could have been diary intolerance?? Anway, will keep you posted & thanks again

motherinferior · 29/09/2003 16:00

Now dd1 has entered the race. Three times last night. In some ways this is OK for me as she shouts DADDYDADDYDADDY GOWAY MUMMY, but that meant poor old dp tried for some kip in the morning, got the timing wrong for getting up himself and dd1, and I had to take her to childminder (finished feeding dd2, changed her nappy, dressed her, dressed me, dressed dd1, got us downstairs grabbed some yogurt and dashed out, all in 20 mins)...

Miv · 29/09/2003 17:29

Have just read this thread and feel a bit better (though not less tired )

Until 2 weeks ago my DS (3mo) would sleep from 10-10.30pm - 6-6.30am and again until 9-9.30 but suddenly from one day to the other he started waking every 2-3 hours every night and sometimes more. Put it down to growth spurt at first as he was also feeding loads during the day and seemed really hungry at night. But now feeding is back to normal he is still waking all the time and I end up feeding him as this is the only way to settle him again. I am not sure if he is actually hungry or if maybe as Lubu says it has become a habit.

The frustrating thing is that I know he can do it as he has not been waking this often since 4 weeks old. (maybe it is just my punishment for thinking I had such an easy baby )

I should maybe try cc but can't bring myself to it as it would break my heart and DH is working lots and very stressed so don't want to keep him up all night with crying baby.

He is otherwise a very happy and contented baby - only cries when he is hungry etc. But I would really like to get some sleep soon.... Am going back to work in 2 months time and don't know how I will drag myself out of bed if this doesn't get better.

Sorry about the long message. Don't know if there's actually a point to it but good to write it all down. Thanks for listening and any advice would be appreciated

codswallop · 29/09/2003 18:28

If mine was pratting around at night I would def be more bothered. As it is he just feed s and goes silently back to his cot. Ubntil this tooth business the whole thing was getting better,

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geegeesmum · 29/09/2003 21:01

Had a better night last night (in comparison to the night b4) - woke at around 10 and then at 3 and then 7...which I can handle. Think she must still be hungry as she is breast fed and when she wakes up she just feeds like mad and then goes straight back to sleep within 20 mins - however all the books seem to say that at 6 months they shouldn't be hungry at night and its just habit - is this true ??? so after our holiday to Italy (in 3 weeks time...yay!!!) she will be 6 months exactly and I will take Kaz33's advice and have a stiff drink and try controlled crying then...she'll be on more solids by then too ...altho then she may be teething....its not easy is it !!! If all else fails after controlled crying may try giving a bottle of formula at night - does that work ? At least then i will be able to get DH to do some night shifts !!

ps - Miv, mine has yet to do a 10/10.30 to 6/6.30 stint.

bobthebaby · 29/09/2003 21:33

geegeesmum, I don't think your baby will have read the same book, or had her diary out recently, so she won't know that at 6 months she's not supposed to be hungry. If she goes straight back to sleep now why risk messing everything up with crying at 3am? You don't have to do something just because a book or a relative tells you its normal. There is a wide range of infant development and this includes sleep. If she is having a good feed, then its not a habit its just the way she is made.

Karen99 · 30/09/2003 08:56

On another thread we've had lots of votes for 'white noise' for both day and night-time sleep and are all cutting hair dryer cd's !

Maybe worth a go?

codswallop · 30/09/2003 09:24

MInes the same age ggs mUm and last night was pacified with medised at 9pm then a feed at?12 (dont look at watch) antd then 5am

He can do longer... He is a cunning little chap!

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motherinferior · 30/09/2003 11:01

Miv, I think most people say 3 months is too little for cc, so give yourself a break.

BTB, I take your point but really, feeding at night does me in...we seem to have stopped it which is BIG RELIEF. Dd2 did wake up last night a couple of times at 3ish, but chomped her way back to sleep on a dummy.

Dd1 OTOH being complete little sod at night. I know it's all the upheaval, the new baby in her room, etc etc, but at some level she KNOWS that if she bellows for PIGLET BLANKET DUMMY (she's recently decided she wants a dummy for obvious reasons) she'll get them because the idea of screaming child, screaming babe, etc is just too awful. If it continues we too will have to try cc-type approach, but somehow it's much worse when they can articulate the particular thing they - unreasonably - are demanding...