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is there a moldies part three?

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Tortington · 03/01/2009 15:31

just wondering, as i can't find it.

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SinkingontheTitanic · 06/01/2009 16:53

I cannot see what place private groups would have on mn. Justine, you clearly wish we would all shut up about the one private site we know about and which we are variously upset about because it is elitist or because we have been left out of it. Well imagine the grief that will be caused when all sorts of private groups are springing up all over mn. My way of looking at it is that they will just lead to more cries of elitism or why was I left out of this?

And I realise none of my posts are being rsponded to because I am using this name and no-one knows who I am, so I will have to leave it there.

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chipmonkey · 06/01/2009 16:54

But Prufrock, the analogy of shagging someone's wife? Are you honestly saying they did something as awful as that to another MNer?

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chipmonkey · 06/01/2009 16:54

X-posts Pru.

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chipmonkey · 06/01/2009 16:55

Those evil card-makers won't let me join their group! They say you have to make cards to join!
Cows!

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BigGitDad · 06/01/2009 16:56

twinset did you see the thread about astronomy last night. Brilliant it was and it was a good example of what you are saying. I was glued to that thread and learnt a whole load. (albeit stuff I will probably never use but that's not the point!)

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stillstanding · 06/01/2009 16:56

Twinset, you are on a roll today! What a excellent analogy.

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TWINSETinapeartree · 06/01/2009 16:57

It must be all the vomit stillstanding

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ClarissimoUsedToBePeachy · 06/01/2009 16:57

YTC I do wonder if it had been more open- if it'd just been oh i'll speak t you later some people cahtting... p[robably the reference MN oldies reinforces that its all MN types iyswim? Does that make sense? I suspect if it had been handled that way most poelpe wouldn't have had an interst; making something secret rather gives an entity an air of mysteriousness / exclusion doesn't it?

However it is time to move on now. I can empathise with Custy and rhubs by default but beyond that tbh.....

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TWINSETinapeartree · 06/01/2009 16:58

No BigGitDad I will look it up though as dp and dd love astronomy and I always feel like the thick relation.

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allnewcontrolfreaky · 06/01/2009 16:59

justine, glad you had an enjoyable week off and that it was untroubled by any thoughts of mouldies and glad too to have your thoughts.

have to say that for me though prufrock's post is as someone said definitely "interesting" but "damn good"?? really suprised to see you posting that. it was in reply to a long post by rhubarb which made far more sense and didn't shagging analogies.... but maybe you havent had the time / wish to read the whole thread....

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pooka · 06/01/2009 16:59

Also Prufrock, it is my understanding that some people who were on the original GF group were NOT invited onto the new othersite. So even at the very beginning there was a judgement being made of "oldies" on the GF site.

But that was probably referenced in thread 3 or 67 and I haven't the energy to track down post.

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bundle · 06/01/2009 17:00

my wireless doesn't toast marshmallows

harumph

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JustinExcelsisMumsnet · 06/01/2009 17:01
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LIZS · 06/01/2009 17:01

I can see private discussions working best for certain topics - like Relationships, Special Needs, Work Issues, Bereavement - where the op is likely to need fairly specific advice from those of similar experience rather and the hit and miss of it appearing randomly in Active Conversations and not want it available to full public view.

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Thomcat · 06/01/2009 17:03

No I don't get it. a) we're having a private golf club but probably won't be asking you to join, okay??? V b) not saying anything at all so as to not cause upset.
Really you'd choose a)???? I wouldn't.
Maybe that's cowardly, but I wouldn't want to intentionally casue hurt. If they then found out anyway and were hurt I'd be sorry they were hurt but still wouldn't change how things were handled.

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Flightattendant7 · 06/01/2009 17:05

Gosh and crikey.
Point five could start it all over again, no?

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Lulumama · 06/01/2009 17:07

flight, do i need to read the last few hundred posts, or not? brief synopsis would be good if poss.

ta very much !

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allnewcontrolfreaky · 06/01/2009 17:11

prob if you can bear it lulu.... for the full appreciation of current feeling.... otherwise you might just (understandably perhaps) post along the lines of enoughalreadygetoverit..... without appreciating that some people would prefer to talk about it if they so wish....

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allnewcontrolfreaky · 06/01/2009 17:12

oops. sorry.... you were after flight's view. ignore me...

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ClarissimoUsedToBePeachy · 06/01/2009 17:12

TBH though would anyone much have wanted to join had it not seemed so eltitist? I think thats at least part of the issue. If you make something a secret then you up its percreived impotance / interst levels massively.

Pooka I was on the original GF list and not invited but hey ho.

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BigGitDad · 06/01/2009 17:12

Justine did you get my e mail to you a week or two ago? Carrie answered it on your behalf but just wondered if you did read it.

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JustinExcelsisMumsnet · 06/01/2009 17:14

Yes I did BigGitDad - and very nice of you it was too. Thank you.

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Lulumama · 06/01/2009 17:15

no no , i have been reading the threads and commenting, i really would not tell anyone to get over it, initially i was extremely hurt by the whole thing etc etc etc. but i have not got time to keep reading all the threads , so was after a brief synopsis of the latter part of this thread.

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tortoiseshellWasMusicaYearsAgo · 06/01/2009 17:15

Can I add something before this thread hits 1000? If we're on to analogies, this would be mine.

A large group of friends exists. Within that group, some people inevitably rub some others up the wrong way. Just the way life is really - some people you click with, others you don't. And some have major disagreements/arguments every time they meet.

A dinner party is organised. In the interests of having a small, more intimate chat than the loud, busy chat they normally have, only a certain number are invited. Someone says - hey why don't we invite person A. As it happens, every time person A meets person C they have a violent disagreement, and it's very unpleasant for everyone. So person C says 'well, ok, but I will have to not come in that case.' At which point everyone says 'no, no, you're here, you're coming, we'll leave it as it is.'

Clearly, the friends can't say to person A 'we're having a dinner party, you're not invited, but want you to know'. But person A finds out. And says person B who is at the dinner party 'Either you don't go to the dinner party, or I won't be friends with you any more.' Forgetting that she can still see those friends at her own dinner party, or at toddlers, or at another friend's house, or at the place where they always used to meet. And forgetting also that perhaps sometimes they have had problems with person C.

It's not a perfect analogy, but it's kind of the way I see it - not everyone gets along with everyone else, and in a small group of people, some sort of membership selection is bound to exist. And just because person A is friends with person B, doesn't mean they can't be friends with person C, even if person A doesn't get along with person C at all.

I'm sure you will all pull this post to pieces, and tell me I'm patronising and to f-off (which is what happened last time I posted), but it's my clumsy attempt to explain my thinking on this.

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Flightattendant7 · 06/01/2009 17:16

Oh Lulu I wish I could help but have only read Pru's and Justine's since this morning, when I stopped reading every post

I was soo tired, had read everything up till then!

Oh I also looked at Pag's children who are highly attractive

If I were you I'd do the same. Most other stuff was probably much about SN boards (which I kno nothing about) and other things being resaid. But not totally sure about that as haven't read it...

Controlfreaky - can you summarise for Lulu instead?

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