If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies [part 2]

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This thread is a continuation of this one. That one had become too big for its own boots the system to handle.

Rhubarb, thanks.

I also hope to stick around here - nothing so far has dislodged me, but I do feel sad at how things seem to be (and not entirely sure of all the details).

Happy New Year to you!

To clarify, I was invited some time ago but didn't realise, then I was forwarded the link again after I posted a happy christmas thread.

"watches his world go to shit when he's not in it"
The arrogance is tragic.

you know i think some people must be name changing and pretending to be moldies to stir
eg georgebailey

cos that's going just a bit too far

I said "when he's not in it" - not meaning "because he's not in it" - although of course that is the plot - hmm - didn't think that one through (arrogance inferred, not intended) -

stops digging.

Oh well, it's given you a bit of a laugh, hasn't it.

"GeorgeBailey is the hero in It's a Wonderful Life who watches his world going to rack & ruin when he's not in it"

Gosh. I'm stunned by the grandiosity of that choice of name, then.

x-post, sorry.

Joke. Surely to goodness?

Franny - I agree.

its what you might call a freudian slip, then

right i have come to poke you all with big sticks

and tell you how we sacrifice goats

It's a surprising mistake given the average IQ of the average Moldie is apparently 250% higher than the average Mumsnetter.

just 250%

Is that the evil Lord Moldievort, She Who Shall Not Be (Accurately) Named?

i was in the moldies
oh yes
i know nothing all about it
well i can make stuff up

Not 250% higher - just 250

OK, now that there seems to be a space in the clearing, free from talk about bum-sex [eeew!], pasta sandwiches and other rivetting stuff , can i say, if i may?

yes some moldies have offered their apologies, but i recall a fair few posting "im not sorry, i have done nothing wrong, i have nothing to apologise for." (of course i am paraphrasing).

others seems to be saying "ok, yu were upset. it wasnt intentional. there, there, it will all be better soon" (well that's my interpretation). i just feel those who are posting with a 'high chest' to be quite irritating. sorry, but i do. just FEELS like some kind of Band Aid truce. it hurts because it doesnt feel like real empathy and an absence of conciliation. i dont presume for a moment that there was any ill intent, but my strongest feeling is that those involved were too busy being 'specisl', 'snide' and 'secretive' that they became wreckless as to what the feelings and consequences of their exclusive set-up could be. if i am honest i dont see a real solution to all this.

belatedly adds

I'm a mouldy old blu cheese, from time to time.

I have no criticism of MN, I enjoy MN, I love many MN-ers, I have not left MN...I am genuinely sorry about people who have felt hurt and left out of all this. But in all truth, although the mechanism of a closed site is fundementally problematic as a gathering of people who met on an open site, I don't recognise the Moldie-party-line ethos that is described here. Nor any level of snideyness or superiorness by virtue of Moldieness. I expect there are people who some posters would feel are capable of that with or without moldies - on moldies and on MN alike! Wouldn't you?

Anyway, though there are people who want to know who posts on moldies, people who don't, (so sorry to those!), I don't want to be misleading to those who feel strongly about it all. So I'm saying.

I post in Moldies because there are posters there I communicate with and who left MN a long time ago and for all sorts of (non anti-individual-MN-er reasons), and because it has been very very useful for me to be able to post about a particular issue that is not google-able or acessible on the www. It isn't just my privacy , but other people's. I do recognise the unreconcilable principle between an open site and a closed one. But for me personally I communicate with many different cyber-friends in many different ways. That is one of them.

Anyway, it's a risk - people I like and respect may well give me a wide berth, maybe not.

Happy New year, anyway.

Well. I ahven't yet posted any comments on this, as have been too busy catching up on threads. Also have had 1/2 litre of wine so this may not make any sense.

I totally get how many people are feeling hurt by this - I was when I heard about Moldies, although I wasn't surprised, had "read between the lines" of a few posts made by people I now know to be moldies. I am under no illusions that I would have been considered, I didn't even get an email from anyone (even those molides I email) saying "look Saltire we are really sorry about this", and I hardly feature on anyones radar.. To find out like Custy did that she had been nominated and then refused must be doubly difficult to deal with. I only have the email addresses of 4 mumsnetters, 2 of them I know to be Molides, 1 I'm not sure about and the last one is someone who is lovely and is devastated by this as she considered most of them to be friends, and I certianly consider her to be my friend even though I have never met her. I've never (not for the want of trying) met a MN in RL.

I find it very difficult to make friends, in 7 different parts of the country in 15 years, I suffer terrible insecuriteis and, I'll be honest, depression at times as well. MN is my release, and I feel, well I'm not sure how I feel about all of this, hurt maybe, angry maybe. I'm not sure. Sorry if it's waffling