If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to.

[LittleDonkeyCarrieMaryMumsnet]

Well hopefully the title says it all. There's been a suggestion, and we agree, that as we did with Baby P and the Mc Canns we just have one thread where anyone who feels they still have anything to add on this subject can post and those who'd rather move on can hide it away.

It feels strange to put this thread in site stuff as we are definitely not wanting to encourage further discussion of Moldies (we have presents to wrap too you know ) but we weren't sure where else to put it.

We will delete any new Moldies threads that are started, so please feel free to report them in case we miss any (what with wrapping the presents and all...)

And if you do want to carry on the discussion please remember that Mumsnet's here to make everyone's lives easier and not the reverse, and that Christmas is a time of goodwill to all mumsnetters past, present and future

Thanks,
MNHQ

moldies is about as commercial as my front room

(lol at exclduing loose cannons with bipolar tendencies from splinter sites)

Oh, and one really important point. Within nine months, the purpose of the splinter group I set up no longer applied, and things actually went back pretty much to the way they were.

You couldn't stop the trolls though :-)

Why Wilf, my wife may be watching!

For anyone wanting to check a prior posting record, check PontipineFinderGeneral.

Richard.

I have been gripped by this whole Moldies thing, it has really made me think about what Mumsnet means to people and how Moldygate has affected people on so many different levels

some people come here for chat and banter about parenting
some people need extra support and help about parenting

some people are desperate for urgent support with RL probs
some people have experience that can help desperate people

some people use it to meet people and make friends
others don't, its just a cyber world

so there is not one group that is right or wrong

I've been a Mnetter for about 3 years, mostly lurking or frequent namechanger, I have never wanted to be 'known', rarely have I started a thread and usually just reply if its something I have personal experience with

for the past week or so, I will admit I thought the Moldies were in the wrong (sorry)
but after thinking today, I can see why they did post here, amazed at all the upset over it, they can use the WWW in any way they choose, the same way as I can and do

I can also see why other long standing Mnetters are upset but in all honesty what can you do about it? nothing really but get back to the other topics and start Mnetting again, offering the support, advice and laughs that we all here for

this is my first post under (yet another) new name, no one would have known me as anything else

this took so long to write you are all prob on the cocktails and pasta sandwiches by now, but I feel better now I have said the things that put it all into perspective for me

as you were

By CliffRichardSucksEggsInHell on Mon 29-Dec-08 17:23:16
D'you know what? This is really pissing me off right now.

Mumsnet has been made to look like it's dominated by swearing, airheaded, middle class mothers in The Independent with nowt better to do than stomp around in their Boden jeans having a tant about a group of anonymous posters on a parenting site.

I'm sure that for the Moldie members it must be lovely to be able to discuss personal things in private and confidence without some name changing troll pissing all over your posts. It must be lovely to disclose your thoughts and problems with like-minded friends without worrying about it being taken the wrong way or having those dreaded Mumsnetters that you don't like, daring to come onto your thread.

As a lot of us who have been on Mumsnet for many years, it does hurt to have people name-changing to make personal and very hurtful attacks on you, which I presume never happens on Moldies.

So may I make a suggestion? Instead of bickering like the loons The Independent clearly think we are, how about we make Mumsnet even better? A site we can be proud of and feel safe posting on?

MNHQ - is there any way that name-changers who do so to personally attack other posters, can have a stiffer punishment? Perhaps banning from the site with no warning? Is there any way we can make Mumsnet a nicer, safer place to post?

Because right now, all we seem to be doing is giving the Moldies justification for the existance of their site.

I'm sure we'd all like to be able to post without fear of being personally attacked or having our real life covers blown. So why don't we work towards that this New Year? Because if I wanted to join Mumsnet right now for some support and advice, I'd be really put off.

And isn't that what Mumsnet is for? For people who are struggling, who need a bit of support and advice? Who can liaise in confidence with other parents and share experiences, problems and achievements? If I wanted a little forum to just talk to friends I can set one up, but I joined Mumsnet to get help and advice and to offer some where I could. I still get a kick out of feeling that my post has really helped, that my contribution has been worth something to someone. And whenever I have an issue, Mumsnet is one of the first places I turn to for advice and support.

Let's keep it that way shall we?

Who's with me on this one?

Bloody marvelous post Rhubarb - the best and most sane thing I have read on here for days (my own posts included)!

My suggestion would be to stop the facility for name changing full stop. Then at least whatever people wanted to say, they would have to say in their own name IYNWIM.

Anyway, a brilliant post!

and let's not forget....all the moldies who wonder what all the fuss is about (why are some of them so bothered).... all this kicked off because a chief moldie couldn't stand not being missed...

there's irony for you...

You know I bet those moldies are loving all this.... nearly 2000 messages all about them. I bet they are sitting on their site absolutely lapping it up, letting their over-inflated egos increase even more.

It is snide all this, its like being back at school and not being invited to the "cool" party... no one would have minded if they had just fucked off, done their own thing and let it go, but no, they had to drop hints, rub people's noses' in it and boost their egos.

Pityful. Really it is. I think the best thing we could all do, is forget about this, forget about them, and start the new year afresh. Make mumsnet great again. Think about all the people that have benefitted from the xmas appeal, all those who have been helped in their darkest hour. Think of all the people you have given advice to over the past year on here - it doesnt matter whether it was feeding/sleeping/fashion/holidays whatever. Thats what MN is about, and we should all feel proud to be part of it.

Lest not forget Justine/Geraldine/Rachel/et all who have worked tirelessly to keep MN up and running, espeoially over the past week - I've never seen so many deleted posts

Merry xmas MN'ers and here's to a wonderful new year

well now i just want to know who mloo is, she likes me and thats good enough for me

I currently have the song "I got you babe" going through my head.....sequence from a movie....anyone else???

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Hi dittany,

It's probably still very uncomfortable for them too - many of them will have their own discomforts about all of this too, and then your hurts on top. Add a pinch of self-denial and everyone feels like victims :-)

I can't see that opening the floodgates at the moment would do either site too much good. Having a single thread here at least gives a forum for the pressures to be gently released on both sides.

And yes, the idea that "they" could be talking quietly and confidentially behind "our" backs is uncomfortable. As is the suspicion that there an element of revenge in the SIndie article / the deleted thread yesterday. I think "we" need to be big enough to acknowledge that paranoia is neither big nor pretty and something we should try to overcome.

everyone can grab hands on nye and sing auld lang syne and let this all go away , i hope

Oh, that's who PontipineFinderGeneral was. Always thought that was a good name.

cat, you can have a two-hour pass.

Sorry Dior!

Thanks holiday - you did well to spot me as I haven't posted often at all.

Have just got back from physio..... what happened to the vicious namecalling thread

So it appears that one moldie was expecting a heartfelt announcement from MNHQ expressing deep sadness that their wittiest most intelligent posters had crossed to the other side.

I'm sure most of us hadn't even noticed that they had left.

Which one?

she lookes like an old knobbly stick....smeared in something dark brown and sticky... that one.

ah i remember you and justa frolicking, mrpontipine
i wondered where you had got to lately