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If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to.

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LittleDonkeyCarrieMaryMumsnet · 23/12/2008 12:47

Well hopefully the title says it all. There's been a suggestion, and we agree, that as we did with Baby P and the Mc Canns we just have one thread where anyone who feels they still have anything to add on this subject can post and those who'd rather move on can hide it away.

It feels strange to put this thread in site stuff as we are definitely not wanting to encourage further discussion of Moldies (we have presents to wrap too you know ) but we weren't sure where else to put it.

We will delete any new Moldies threads that are started, so please feel free to report them in case we miss any (what with wrapping the presents and all...)

And if you do want to carry on the discussion please remember that Mumsnet's here to make everyone's lives easier and not the reverse, and that Christmas is a time of goodwill to all mumsnetters past, present and future

Thanks,
MNHQ

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Tortington · 29/12/2008 18:12

they set up a secret online invitation forum
people got pissed off about it

Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:12

Sneetches

Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:12

You tube

Paperchase · 29/12/2008 18:13

Brilliant post Rhubarb.

CaptainUnderpants · 29/12/2008 18:14

Who set up the 'secret forum ' or did they namechange ? Sorry to go over old ground ...

Threadworm · 29/12/2008 18:15

The Sneetches

(the moral being that eventually "the Sneetches got really quite smart ...
The day they decided that Sneetches are Sneetches. And no kind of Sneetch is the best on the beaches")

(and the second moral being that only McBean The Independent benefits from strife)

Now, the Star-Belly Sneetches had bellies with stars.
The Plain-Belly Sneetches had none upon thars.
Those stars weren?t so big. They were really so small.
You might think such a thing wouldn?t matter at all.

But, because they had stars, all the Star-Belly Sneetches
Would brag, ?We?re the best kind of Sneetch on the beaches.?
With their snoots in the air, they would sniff and they?d snort
?We?ll have nothing to do with the Plain-Belly sort!?
And, whenever they met some, when they were out walking,
They?d hike right on past them without even talking.

When the Star-Belly children went out to play ball,
Could a Plain Belly get in the game? Not at all.
You only could play if your bellies had stars
And the Plain-Belly children had none upon thars.

When the Star Belly Sneetches had frankfurter roasts
Or picnics or parties or marshmallow toasts,
They never invited the Plain-Belly Sneetches
They left them out cold, in the dark of the beaches.
They kept them away. Never let them come near.
And that?s how they treated them year after year.

Then ONE day, it seems while the Plain-Belly Sneetches
Were moping and doping alone on the beaches,
Just sitting there wishing their bellies had stars,
A stranger zipped up in the strangest of cars!

?My friends?, he announced in a voice clear and clean,
?My name is Sylvester McMonkey McBean.
And I?ve heard of Your troubles. I?ve heard you?re unhappy.
But I can fix that, I?m the Fix-It-Up Chappie.

I?ve come here to help you.
I have what you need.
And my prices are low. And I work with great speed.
And my work is one hundred per cent guaranteed!?

Then, quickly, Sylvester McMonkey McBean
Put together a very peculiar machine.
And he said, ?You want stars like a Star-Belly Sneetch?
My friends, you can have them for three dollars each!?

?Just pay me your money and hop right aboard!?
So they clambered inside. Then the big machine roared.
And it klonked. And it bonked. And it jerked. And it berked.
And it bopped them about. But the thing really worked!
When the Plain-Belly Sneetches popped out, they had stars!
They actually did. They had stars upon thars!

Then they yelled at the ones who had stars at the start,
?We?re exactly like you! You can't tell us apart.
We're all just the same, now, you snooty old smarties!
And now we can go to your frankfurter parties."

"Good grief!" groaned the ones who had stars at the first.
We're still the best Sneetches and they are the worst.
But now, how in the world will we know?, they all frowned,
?If which kind is what, or the other way round??

Then up came McBean with a very sly wink.
And he said, ?Things are not quite as bad as you think.
So you don?t know who?s who. That is perfectly true.
But come with me, friends. Do you know what I?ll do?
I?ll make you, again, the best Sneetches on the beaches.
And all it will cost you is ten dollars eaches.?

?Belly stars are no longer in style?, said McBean.
?What you need is a trip through my Star-Off Machine.
This wondrous contraption will take OFF your stars
so you won?t look like Sneetches that have them on thars.?
And that handy machine working very precisely
Removed all the stars from their tummies quite nicely.

Then, with snoots in the air, they paraded about.
And they opened their beaks and they let out a shout,
?We know who is who! Now there Isn?t a doubt.
The best kind of Sneetches are Sneetches without!?

Then, of course, those with stars got all frightfully mad.
To be wearing a star was frightfully bad.
Then, of course, old Sylvester McMonkey McBean
invited THEM into his Star-Off Machine.

Then, of course from THEN on, as you probably guess,
Things really got into a horrible mess.

All the rest of that day, on those wild screaming beaches,
The Fix-It-Up Chappie kept fixing up Sneetches.
Off again! On again! In again! Out again!
Through the machines they raced round and about again,

Changing their stars every minute or two. They kept paying money.
They kept running through until the Plain nor the Star-Bellies knew
Whether this one was that one or that one was this one. Or which one
Was what one or what one was who.

Then, when every last cent of their money was spent,
The Fix-It-Up Chappie packed up. And he went.
And he laughed as he drove In his car up the beach,
?They never will learn. No. You can?t Teach a Sneetch!?

But McBean was quite wrong. I?m quite happy to say.
That the Sneetches got really quite smart on that day.
The day they decided that Sneetches are Sneetches.
And no kind of Sneetch is the best on the beaches.
That day, all the Sneetches forgot about stars and whether
They had one, or not, upon thars.

WhisperShoutWhisper · 29/12/2008 18:15

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holidaywonk · 29/12/2008 18:15

Oooh, I see. (Also, now I understand TooManyDaves's name.)

Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:16

Nice one Thready

Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:16

No, stop it, Lapin was incidental afaik. She's resigned from here anyway, she's feeling awful

WalkinginWaynettaWonderland · 29/12/2008 18:17

Apology accepted Custardo, thank you.

WhisperShoutWhisper · 29/12/2008 18:19

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CaptainUnderpants · 29/12/2008 18:19

So has anyone else 'resigned' ?

And is the feeling of the majority is that they were wrong to do this 'forum by inviation only ' ?

WalkinginWaynettaWonderland · 29/12/2008 18:20

Cornsilk - I would dearly love to say yes, but I fear a certain actress from Lipstick Jungle would sue me

Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:21

Perhaps my post was politically dubious, but I know she's feeling crap because she told me. And before you ask it wasn't on moldies! I'm not a member.

I just think flinging names around is unhelpful at this point. Nobody really knows iyswim, who is 'to blame' or whatever.

WhisperShoutWhisper · 29/12/2008 18:22

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Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:24

The question was who set it up

I think helping with techy stuff is arguably incidental to the ethos and or planning of said site

but I'm not getting into all that, it's not my forte, I haven't enough knowledge, I just wanted to prevent the name checks really

LucyLou7 · 29/12/2008 18:24

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hunkermunker · 29/12/2008 18:25

Why is it wrong that Lapin's using her technical know-how on Moldies, please?

LucyLou7 · 29/12/2008 18:25

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Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:25

I'm sorry I got into a discussion about individuals as I don't know enough but I do feel allegations should be kept to a minimum.

Apologies.

Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:26

Please can we talk about some other aspect rather than particular people.

3littlefrogs · 29/12/2008 18:27

This is moving so fast, and I am a bit bamboozled by it all, but I agree with cliffrichard.

I joined MN because I read about it in a newspaper (can't remember which)and I thought it was a great idea. As a now oldish mum, who had no help or support when bringing up my children, I could see that it would be a fantastic resource.

I wanted to offer help and support if I could. I also appreciated the wealth of knowledge and advice to be found here.

This current debacle is very sad, and to me it is obvious why people would be hurt and upset, but hopefully this too shall pass, and MN will continue to be a good place.

CaptainUnderpants · 29/12/2008 18:28

So how many people were invited to join ?

mloo · 29/12/2008 18:28

I only became aware of the Moldies thing today, and I come on here everyday, I am so good at keeping out of the loop!!

I could say loads, I have been on here 7 years (various chat names) and I feel I know a huge amount about many of you... but I summarise by saying simply: Any forum that won't have lou33 I wouldn't want to join, anyway.

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