If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to.

[LittleDonkeyCarrieMaryMumsnet]

Well hopefully the title says it all. There's been a suggestion, and we agree, that as we did with Baby P and the Mc Canns we just have one thread where anyone who feels they still have anything to add on this subject can post and those who'd rather move on can hide it away.

It feels strange to put this thread in site stuff as we are definitely not wanting to encourage further discussion of Moldies (we have presents to wrap too you know ) but we weren't sure where else to put it.

We will delete any new Moldies threads that are started, so please feel free to report them in case we miss any (what with wrapping the presents and all...)

And if you do want to carry on the discussion please remember that Mumsnet's here to make everyone's lives easier and not the reverse, and that Christmas is a time of goodwill to all mumsnetters past, present and future

Thanks,
MNHQ

So how many moldies are there? Loads? Or three or four?

It is a little snobbish is it not?

I'm desperate to know if MNHQ condone it or started it or think it's ridiculous?

pooka - why not do all that on another thread though, surely this is the thread for posters such as ChristmasFairySantAsSLut to ask questions on, not for chat about cocktails

umm...err....no where???

I must have just got the general impression that you'd rather all the moldie discussion abated.

Apologies, it was really just a blatant plug for my other thread.

Thread content varies according to people's mood etc

"If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to."

If you post about airing cupboards and cocktails on here, you're denying MNers who've hidden the thread already the benefit of your wisdom, aren't you?

good point lucy jones!

I must have missed like lots and lots and lots...because....I don't get this...what was there to be upset about, who was upset with whom and well...what the feck is everyone on about...

[confused emoticon]
and yes, if I had lots of time, I might just would read 1500+ posts....but...right now I haven't sigh....

sorry just realised Hunker made the same point

Aitch are you a moldie? I'm so confused.

Well cocktails are a bit over, it became lunch for a bit, should think it'll go onto midafternoon snack shortly

It's a drawback of being able to hide threads I'm afraid. If we try to police keeping threads on one topic then it will be ahuge job and will be a bit draconian. People talk about what they want to. Anyone is free to join in or hide the thread. That's MN

Oh damn Hunker - you're right. Goodness knows how many mumsnetters aren't stowing the butler in his rightful place!

Slut- I'm of the same perspective as you.

Oh okay, thanks VVV. Obviously I had a sense of humour failure.

As to Moldies feeling unwelcome, that was bound to happen and in a sense, something you either feel yourselves, or if it genuinely is something other people are feeling (which I doubt) it has been brought on by yourselves, no? People like Expat still on here and made very very welcome.

It will all blow over in no time at all. It would blow over faster if people didn't come on and reignite the issue.

It would really be best if we all didn't talk about this at ALL until the new year or something.

Its almost always the way with contentious threads - they tail off into talk of pants or X-Files or somesuch.
It's part of the heeeeeeeeealing process.

ChristmasFairySantAsSLut - some people are upset because they have real life friends on here and/or have posted on here for years and years and feel slighted by friends they've made on here not inviting them to invitation only forum

Who invented moldies???

Quattro, I haven't said anything on the whole subject that's been inflammatory or unpleasant (on here at least - on the phone to my mum the other night, I may have been less,a s CITH1 puts it, "vanilla" ).

But I've had various people be rather "blunt" with me - I guess some are using it as an excuse to have a go at people they've never liked for whatever reason, carte blanche style. Shame.

god - why is this jusdt on one thread? it is so unwieldly and there are loads of issues around this people want to discuss.

i want to talk about the media coverage but it gets lost in this huge thread.

it is different from baby p and MM - it is not an issue that just some people want to discuss - it is about the whole site.

Good point HM - would hate for any mumsnetters not to benefit from the erudite and interesting cocktail/airing cupboard discussion.

Aitch, most of the nastiness and get back to moldies stuff has beenn in response to a sustained attack from Moldies - did you not see PPH and others last night? There is a general feeling that they are coming on to shit-stir and then farking off back for a tactical conflab.

However, I am extremely regretful that I was involved in the rudeness last night. It was one of those moments of communal hysteria that sometimes occur after the unsayable has been said. But sorry, really.

As I said, it's a drawback of being able to hide threads. It's one of the good points about MN that we are free to discuss almost anything we want, on most threads.

Pooka, it would be criminal. Imagine the uproar if other MNers discover that the answer to life, the universe and all things cocktail-airing-cupboard has been found on a thread they've hidden?

It may well make the national press.

yes, in the sense that i hadn't posted on there that much prior to all this and had been whole-heartedly flamed for challenging the closed element etc, then yes i am a moldie. i've never stopped posting on MN and wasn't aware until reading all this 'moldie go home' shit that the two were mutually exclusive.

i have a problem with the exclusive element of it, but i was hopeful of changing that. and now tbh i'll be damned if i'm going to let a bunch of internet sprites tell me where i'm going to post on the world wide web. unless those same internet sprites give me access to their blogs, their emails, their facebooks and any conversations with MNers. the whole thing is now hypocritical in the extreme, i'm betting most of the big-hitters on these threads have been slagging Moldie posters off in private, and worse than they have been doing in public. which if you'd seen what they posted about Twiglett last night must take some doing.