Is it acceptable to imply another poster is a pervert because they disagree with you about a topic?

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So in a feminism thread, the members leep insinuating that I am a man with some sort of pee fetish because basically I disagree with them that women have to strip half naked or routinely wear several more layers than men. I've reported these posts as personal attacks but they dont seem to get deleted.

Can I clarify that it is ok to insinuate that someone is a different sex and a pervert because they disagreed with me? I'm asking before I head to other threads.

Do they? Most women wear just underwear and a skirt or trousers. Most men wear just underwear and trousers. Even I can’t see what all these additional mysterious layers are other than an occasional pair of tights. What else is there?

If that’s the worst you have on the OP, then it’s a bit hypocritical to call that nasty given the other stuff said to her.

Besides, anyone who thinks we actually remove layers of clothing would fall under the definition of not knowing how we pee. Saying women don’t take much longer than men is hardly being ignorant of how we pee.

There is no need for this kind of toxicity.

So then...they didn't break the rules 🙄

The comment was referring to going to the toilet
see other posts

ps. Maybe on the other thread though

Thanks for heads up.

Off the top of my head.

Tights. Shorts. Body suits that fasten at the crotch . Shapewear. Petticoats/slips, disposable incontinence pants.

All pretty common things for many women to wear under their clothing for various reasons. I didn’t see the original thread op is talking about and I wouldn’t jus in my opinion straight to calling someone a pervert, but I would find it unusual that an adult woman genially can’t think to what extra layers are commonly worn by women.

I’d be more likely to assume they were very young and maybe a bit sheltered if they really are unaware of other possible layers women may wear.  But in the context of a discussion on the feminism board and about women’s rights etc, I can kind of understand why someone hasn’t been given the benefit of the doubt.

I do remove clothing
I don’t take it off but I do remove it

If I don’t remove my knickers I can’t wee
If I don’t remove my trousers from my backside I can’t wee
Men don’t need to remove their pants though

We are not talking about completely stripping off here

I have never worn tights/panty hose, a slip or shapewear, most women don’t these days. My grandmother did.

It feels like you’re adding in extra layers that are not worn by the majority.
They do have shapewear for men as well as women, so that’s a wash.

. Depending on the time of year, up to 50% to 70% of women wear tights or hosiery, especially in cooler regions.

Well that’s the crux of the matter isn’t it.

You think remove doesn’t mean, well, remove.
to take something or someone away from somewhere, or off something. The men came to remove the rubbish from the backyard.

All we do is adjust our clothing by pushing down trousers & knickers or lifting a skirt/dress and pushing down knickers, we aren’t removing any of our clothing. I do remove my coat and hang it with my purse if there is a hook on the back of the door.

Really? Source?
I will say I have noticed some Gen Z women wearing tights like they are leggings as an outer layer - there was that whole tights as trousers /pants trend in 2023
https://fashionmagazine.com/style/trends/tights-as-pants/

I am a woman with common sense and I can count. I also don’t think we have extra layers of clothes that must be removed to pee.

I think it’s a stretch really
I remove my trousers from my backside to wee
If we are talking about bathroom situations, which we are, people using the term remove are not referring to stripping off entirely

To me that’s just logical
Remove doesn’t have to mean get rid of entirely
it’s situational based

I'm sorry? Are you inferring that I'm telling untruths? I'd really rather you didn't do that, thank you

Women generally have more clothes to remove than men when they pee.

How is that challenging to grasp?

Yes, but the fact that one of us is using the common definition of remove to mean remove and one of us is using remove as short hand for partially remove (being generous here) doesn’t make either of us a pervert or any of the things other posters have alleged on here.

I think I’m being just as logical as you. For example when a nurse asks me to remove my trousers and knickers for my smear, I’m going to take them off completely. I’m not going to partially remove them like I’m just going for a wee.

It is much better, don’t you think, to discuss things reasonably like we are?

It’s not at all challenging to grasp that you think women have more clothes and actually have to remove them than men to pee.

I just disagree
a) it’s usually not more layers for the majority of women it’s the same as men,
b) no clothing is actually being removed for men or women
c) neither of us is a pervert or lacking in common sense or isn’t a woman and
d) this is not a defensible reason why we need women’s toilets for women only.

I think it’s challenging because it simply isn’t true, and I’ve been a female/woman for 58 years.

I see. 🤣

The discussion re women needing to remove more clothing than men was in respect to why it takes longer for a woman to use the toilet and that's why more womens cubicles are required than men's urinals. Not as a reason why women's toilets are for women only.

If you can simply unzip your fly and pee like men without needing to remove/move/displace any other clothing good on you.

I imagine the posters were thinking of things like tights and shapewear.

My favourite work outfit for example:
underwear
tights
shapewear shorts
shapewear bodysuit
skirt
high socks
+top half items.

I love this. Thanks for your efforts!

On another planet???