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Dear MNHQ, I really would prefer not to see this advert …

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Edmontine · 04/09/2025 07:57

How can you, in all conscience, allow this to appear on the site?

Please make it stop.

Dear MNHQ, I really would prefer not to see this advert …
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WeirdyBeardyMarrowBabyLady · 04/09/2025 10:23

To those defending the ad maybe just for a single second pause before clicking send on a reply which tells someone who might have reason to hold a different perspective that they’re wrong.

HarrietBond · 04/09/2025 10:27

Surely, in addition to the racist overtones, this is horribly ableist anyway. IQ is a controversial measure in any case but WTF does ‘borderline’ mean?

Bumblebee72 · 04/09/2025 10:29

SprayWhiteDung · 04/09/2025 09:51

However you interpret the actual colours (and how your device displays them), it's still abundantly clear that the obvious suggestion is that the darker your skin colour is, the more stupid; and the lighter your skin colour, the smarter.

Even if people with very dark skin do the test and attain the 'genius' level as decreed by this test, it's effectively 'promoting' them to 'white intelligence' level, as though they somehow needed this.

Darwin believed something akin to this: that the paler your skin, the more evolved you were - so presumably also the more intelligent you would be. It's 2025; we really should have moved on from such horrible and ridiculously absurd prejudice by now.

Not that it makes a difference, but my own skin colour happens to be most similar to the person on the very right end of the scale. In no way whatsoever does that make me a genius, though!

That is not what it is saying it is how you are reading it.

Nanny0gg · 04/09/2025 10:30

freshpyjamas · 04/09/2025 10:14

It’s red to pink! No idea what everyone is getting offended for.

It's brown to white on my screen

BeckyAMumsnet · 04/09/2025 10:30

Hello and thanks for reporting this ad. We're in the process of locating it and will block it ASAP.

Nanny0gg · 04/09/2025 10:32

Edmontine · 04/09/2025 08:40

@Lifejigsaw I don’t give a fig for how adverts are picked. MNHQ can see my real name - there can be no fundamental misunderstanding about how deeply offensive I find this advert.

I want it banned from the site.

It took a while, but they finally got rid of the vaping ads I was seeing.

Keep on (and report your thread, they might see it quicker)

C8H10N4O2 · 04/09/2025 10:33

HarrietBond · 04/09/2025 10:27

Surely, in addition to the racist overtones, this is horribly ableist anyway. IQ is a controversial measure in any case but WTF does ‘borderline’ mean?

In older variants of this picture, below 70 was usually labelled “imbecile” or similarly delightful term.

Edmontine · 04/09/2025 10:42

It’s been appearing for at least a week or ten days, @BeckyAMumsnet. Quite honestly I hesitated to raise it because at first I couldn’t believe my eyes. And then, well, no one likes to be told they’re not seeing what they’re seeing …

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FamBae · 04/09/2025 10:43

I don't think it's racist, just extremely thoughtless, I totally understand why it comes across as offensive. Some ad man's going to get a kick up the arse for this one.

SprayWhiteDung · 04/09/2025 10:51

Bumblebee72 · 04/09/2025 10:29

That is not what it is saying it is how you are reading it.

I'm far from the only one, it would seem.

My skin colour is most like the 'genius' on the far right of this spectrum (talking strictly skin colour, not politics!), but I can still see how clearly racist and outrageous it is.

It doesn't just matter what your intention as an advertiser may or may not have been; you have to think about how it comes across too.

There was another advertiser who has just had their knuckles rapped for showing two people with 'problem' skin (who were black) and one person with 'perfect' skin, who was white.

Often, it's subconscious: not meant deliberately maliciously, but nevertheless it comes from somewhere and it gives out a strong message that white is good and black is bad.

Sparklybutold · 04/09/2025 10:52

It’s deep red to pink for me - are other people actually seeing the colour brown?

SprayWhiteDung · 04/09/2025 10:56

HarrietBond · 04/09/2025 10:27

Surely, in addition to the racist overtones, this is horribly ableist anyway. IQ is a controversial measure in any case but WTF does ‘borderline’ mean?

Indeed. If it's supposed to be measuring your inherent individual ability - as opposed to your mastery of a skill that you've learned/are learning - what does it actually achieve?

"You think you're thick, and we can prove that you are thick!" OR "You think you're smarter than other people and we can give you the proof you need to lord it over them!" Brilliantly helpful.

proname · 04/09/2025 10:57

I agree this is offensive

SprayWhiteDung · 04/09/2025 11:02

Sparklybutold · 04/09/2025 10:52

It’s deep red to pink for me - are other people actually seeing the colour brown?

It might be like that dress-colour controversy all over again; or the advertisers may have tweaked it slightly following complaints.

Either way, it's still clearly suggesting that the paler your skin, the more intelligent you are; and for those of with skin that's commonly called 'white', we are in reality almost always more pink than actually white, thus it looks like it's saying that "we are the smartest".

KimTheresPeopleThatAreDying · 04/09/2025 11:04

This is incredibly offensive. Lighter skinned (and further to the right) = more intelligent? Seriously?

gamerchick · 04/09/2025 11:12

Bumblebee72 · 04/09/2025 09:17

They aren't skin tone colours, they are a scale of red. It is peoples subconscious racism that then equates dark red with brown/black and light red with white.

Really glad you said that. I thought I was going off my napper.

MagentaRocks · 04/09/2025 11:18

The colours are red to me but straight away I could see what the issue was. Not a great advertising strategy.

ShesTheAlbatross · 04/09/2025 11:21

Sparklybutold · 04/09/2025 10:52

It’s deep red to pink for me - are other people actually seeing the colour brown?

I’m not sure it’s totally relevant, but dark red and brown aren’t that far away from each other really. So with different devices, different eyes, you’ll get different responses. To me, it looks reddish-brown.

Strzyga · 04/09/2025 11:26

mysodapop · 04/09/2025 08:44

Should absolutely be deleted off the internet, but yes, Mumsnet will have no direct control or approval of this ad. They need to contact whoever they sell advertising to, the company that manages that. They should also be sanctioned for letting this one through.

MN should be aware of every ad they are allowing on the site - I think its a bit crap to say "well we cant vet them all" - If you are taking money for it, then you should be

HarrietBond · 04/09/2025 11:29

Surely either a clear agreement with the ad company over acceptable advertisers or direct ad sales would avoid so many of these incidents with inappropriate content?

BeckyAMumsnet · 04/09/2025 11:57

Just to update that we've blocked this ad but please let us know if you see anything else like it.

Many ads on Mumsnet are delivered programmatically, which means they’re served automatically via large ad networks rather than chosen by us individually. We use strict blocklists and filters to stop offensive or inappropriate content, but some advertisers try to get around those controls - for example by mislabelling their ads, changing the creative after it’s been approved, or disguising the category it falls under. That’s why, unfortunately, the occasional unwanted ad slips through on Mumsnet as it does across the internet.

When this happens, we take action straight away - we report it to our ad partners, block the ad, and update our filters to reduce the chances of it happening again.

We don't want ads like this anywhere on the site and we’re grateful when users flag them so we can remove them quickly. If you see another one, a screenshot really helps us track it down and deal with it.

Thanks, all.

Edmontine · 04/09/2025 11:58

Thank you @BeckyAMumsnet.

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CeciliaDuckiePond · 04/09/2025 12:17

The colour hue is irrelevant - it clearly suggests paler = more intelligent. The fact that they've chosen shades of pink and brown simply makes the racist message even more obvious and blatant than it would be in another hue.

SirBasil · 04/09/2025 12:18

PrincessofWells · 04/09/2025 08:26

That may be so, but mumsnet have allowed a number of racist threads to remain and it makes one start to wonder if there's an agenda here.

where are the racist threads - a mass report should fix that

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 04/09/2025 13:40

@BeckyAMumsnet so you know that the ad networks you use send you crap ads. A quick trawl through this topic would highlight the many instances when those ads have been actively harmful to your users.

Why are you still using those ad networks? What's the business reasoning behind that?