LGBT children board title

[ArabellaScott]

Given that the Cass Review says social transitioning is not a neutral act, and refers to 'gender incongruent' or 'gender questioning' children, the use of 'trans children' looks startlingly out of date and incorrect on Mumsnet.

The board should be renamed 'LGB and gender questioning children' to better reflect best practice.

The new school guidelines likewise use 'gender incongruent' and 'gender questioning' and not ever 'trans' when referring to children.

'I don't believe that this thread is dominated by genuine LGBT parents.'

Are you saying you think the posters describing themselves as such are lying?

Or are you saying that you think that if someone has 'gc' views, they de facto can't be LGB or have an LGB or gender questioning child?

Because both those positions would be utter nonsense, and the latter is highly offensive and political, some would say politically extreme.

How fantastic to go back in time and see a board being born! I feel like congratulating you. 😊

I think it would reflect the belief that LGB people who are non compliant with gender beliefs are not LGBT (which is different to homosexual) and should be shunned as wrong'uns.

Which reflects the importance of LGB children and their parents having somewhere to talk and share information free of this.

Ah. The wrong sort of LGB people. Or the wrong sort of children? Just the wrong sorts, generally, I suppose.

My Dd is the B, and I absolutely think they should be separated.
My Dd being bi has utterly nothing to do with a peer of hers wanting to be male.

How dare someone decide that we have no right to speak on this topic, when they do not know us. Though I rarely post and name change frequently, if MN wish to do so they can look back over my posting history from many years ago where I reference my LGB DC and trouble with bullying from T.

I strongly believe in separate boards, these are very different issues.

There are countless of us lesbian parents who are concerned at the gaslighting of children that their bodies are flawed but could be fixed with a sex change.

Mumsnet "makes parents' lives easier by pooling knowledge, advice and support on everything from conception to childbirth, from babies to teenagers". Transactivists are of course able to post on here but should expect to be challenged when their demands are about transactivism rather than children's wellbeing and safety.
Cass has been a wake up call for society in terms of exposing the lack of evidence for the treatment regimes used for this vulnerable group of children and I hope that MNHQ will take account of the changing landscape and include the phrase "gender questioning children and ideally bin the age inappropriate phrase "trans children".

Please follow OP's advice, it is excellent as are many of the contributions on this thread.

Also agree with this. The more obvious solution would be to hive off the gender-related issue to a board named Trans and Gender Questioning or similar.

@KellyMumsnet
Supposedly there are hundreds of thousand of people who use mumsnet but for some reason the 'gender-critical' group of a few hundred (maybe as many as a couple of thousand) seem to hold sway - probably by being terminally online and attempting to dominate any conversation about gender.

Why should they get to dictate that LGBT should no longer be used - they're a minority who constantly complain that those who disagree with them won't talk to them. It is also really obvious that some of them name change in an attempt to make their arguments look more popular. However the number of votes on the AIBU posts show their real popularity.

Not that it'll make any difference what you call the board because the GC lot will be all over it linking to right wing videos and arguing that every reputable mainstream organisation has been 'captured'. They spend most of their time giving bad advice and congratulating themselves as knowing better than every medical and safeguarding organisation around the world.

As with many others who use this site I know this is probably a waste of time even highlighting them. But hey ho someone had to say it.

Instead of making sweeping generalisations, based on no evidence at all, how about actually putting your position on the topic at hand forward?

For example, why, in the context of the very thorough and well evidenced findings of the Cass Review, do you support the continued use of "LGBT children" as a descriptor?

Gosh, I haven't seen the 'there's only six of them and they're all sock puppets' argument in a while.

It's not possible to name change on a thread any more.

Would it just be easier to explain why sterilising and mutulating gay, lesbian and autistic kids is a good thing, and not a very bad, evil thing?

And let's not forget, when the Feminist board was split in two, there were monitors - sorry I mean users - who were extremely willing to shepherd posters to the 'correct' board if they felt the post had been put in the wrong board. I'm sure the very helpful people would assist those on the LGB and T/Gender Questioning boards if the split proposed came to pass. So helpful are some folx.

@ArabellaScott hi i am confused by the post by Kelly mumsnet, is it acceptable to express a particular view, from an employee in such angry terms besides which I assume mumsnet have the appropriate data on who is who.

Do we report this if so who to i mean WTF.

@ArabellaScott I mean she/ he is a mumsnet employee

This is the only post by KellyMN!

Do you mean the one where rosa17 tags kellymumsnet?

Posts from Mumsnet mods show up a different colour.

Yeah that wasn't a post by KellyMN - it was post directed to her.

No try @ her/him you will see it is a mumsnet employee !!!!!

There is a blue m in front i mean hu?

This is not on is it

I agree with this

Oh yes silly twat i am I am 🙄