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Disability hate on MN

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IClaudine · 02/05/2024 13:31

Hi MNHQ

Since Sunak’s announcement on disability benefits, there has been a big increase on MN in hostility towards people who receive then.

The abuse, hate and outright lies (my neighbour’s son’s cousin’s wife climbs Mount Everest but gets PIP etc) being spewed on MN towards disabled people, a group with protected characteristics, has been dreadful and very distressing for disabled people and their loved ones to read,

Please can you do something?

Here is a small selection of the threads where the disability benefit bashers have paid a visit and had a field day. There may be more, but I can’t face searching for them!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5064828-to-be-terrified-about-pip?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share  

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5065470-people-who-work-have-anxiety-too?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5066670-aibu-to-hope-that-able-bodied-people-will-support-disabled-people-against-the-tory-attack-on-pip?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/money-matters/5064856-pip-vouchers-to-replace-money?reply=134966246&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/money-matters/5066331-do-you-feel-bad-for-receiving-a-high-amount-of-uc?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

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MyNameIsX · 10/07/2025 14:05

K0OLA1D · 10/07/2025 14:04

If you're referring to me reporting you, you're mistaken. It wasnt me.

No, I don’t think you did.

The poster concerned admitted it (see above).

As I say, we move on!

K0OLA1D · 10/07/2025 14:06

MyNameIsX · 10/07/2025 14:05

No, I don’t think you did.

The poster concerned admitted it (see above).

As I say, we move on!

What you said wasn't acceptable.

PandoraSocks · 10/07/2025 14:10

MyNameIsX · 10/07/2025 14:05

No, I don’t think you did.

The poster concerned admitted it (see above).

As I say, we move on!

Admitted it? That makes it sound as though I should be ashamed. I am not. I reported you for being inflammatory. MN disagreed with me.

I did not report your post that was deleted yesterday. So maybe think on that. You are upsetting several people on this thread.

As I say, we move on!

You are not in charge of the thread.

MyNameIsX · 10/07/2025 14:24

I shall leave it there, and resume focus on the topic of the thread!

PandoraSocks · 10/07/2025 14:25

MyNameIsX · 10/07/2025 14:24

I shall leave it there, and resume focus on the topic of the thread!

Which is disability hate on MN.

MyNameIsX · 10/07/2025 17:49

Badenoch has endorsed CSJ analysis that recommended removing incapacity and disability benefits for those with less severe mental health claims and give them access to NHS Talking Therapies. This could save £7.4bn by 2029/30, according to the analysis.

Secondly, moving assessments from over the phone to in-person. Since the pandemic, most assessments for PIP and UC Incapacity have been via a phone or video call. At the Centre for Policy Studies, we found, through a FOI request, that in the year to November 2024, just 10% of UC Incapacity assessments and 5% of PIP assessments were face-to-face. Moving back to face-to-face will reduce the inflow. Reassessments were not mentioned, but these also collapsed after the pandemic and should be increased to get people off benefits they no longer to need.

She also criticised the Motability scheme, noting that 90% of cars have no adaptions made for disability. This cannot be right – surely the point of Motability is to compensate for increased costs for adapted transport, not giving out cars to everyone with a disability?

Thirdly, she described the welfare system as ideally acting like a trampoline, cushioning your fall and propelling you back to your feet. Better support for the disabled is a win-win. This needs to be fleshed out and should be a major focus of Conservative policy-making in the coming years. Often, job centres focus on ticking boxes for eligibility, rather than investing in evidence-based interventions that will move people into work. It’s an obvious area for reform, where more authority and funding – linked to appropriate incentives – could be given to job centres and local authorities to design or choose employment programmes that will be successful.

Author: Daniel Herring, Head of Economic & Fiscal policy at the Centre for Policy Studies.

TigerRag · 10/07/2025 17:52

MyNameIsX · 10/07/2025 17:49

Badenoch has endorsed CSJ analysis that recommended removing incapacity and disability benefits for those with less severe mental health claims and give them access to NHS Talking Therapies. This could save £7.4bn by 2029/30, according to the analysis.

Secondly, moving assessments from over the phone to in-person. Since the pandemic, most assessments for PIP and UC Incapacity have been via a phone or video call. At the Centre for Policy Studies, we found, through a FOI request, that in the year to November 2024, just 10% of UC Incapacity assessments and 5% of PIP assessments were face-to-face. Moving back to face-to-face will reduce the inflow. Reassessments were not mentioned, but these also collapsed after the pandemic and should be increased to get people off benefits they no longer to need.

She also criticised the Motability scheme, noting that 90% of cars have no adaptions made for disability. This cannot be right – surely the point of Motability is to compensate for increased costs for adapted transport, not giving out cars to everyone with a disability?

Thirdly, she described the welfare system as ideally acting like a trampoline, cushioning your fall and propelling you back to your feet. Better support for the disabled is a win-win. This needs to be fleshed out and should be a major focus of Conservative policy-making in the coming years. Often, job centres focus on ticking boxes for eligibility, rather than investing in evidence-based interventions that will move people into work. It’s an obvious area for reform, where more authority and funding – linked to appropriate incentives – could be given to job centres and local authorities to design or choose employment programmes that will be successful.

Author: Daniel Herring, Head of Economic & Fiscal policy at the Centre for Policy Studies.

Kindly, shut up

You've been told a few times this isn't the thread for it

PandoraSocks · 10/07/2025 17:54

What is everyone having for tea tonight? I think I might do a bbq.

K0OLA1D · 10/07/2025 18:23

PandoraSocks · 10/07/2025 17:54

What is everyone having for tea tonight? I think I might do a bbq.

I'm going to do some iceland speciality salmon and rice for me and DS1. I might push the boat out and air fry some broccoli! And DP and DS2 have left over domino's pizza from a treat we had last night for doing well this year at school.

ValleyClouds · 10/07/2025 18:25

I had a jacket and some cottage cheese

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 10/07/2025 18:36

K0OLA1D · 10/07/2025 18:23

I'm going to do some iceland speciality salmon and rice for me and DS1. I might push the boat out and air fry some broccoli! And DP and DS2 have left over domino's pizza from a treat we had last night for doing well this year at school.

We had Chinese which is not our normal Thursday night dinner but it was amazing. I had my fifth endoscopy this year and had been on nil by mouth for 24 hours. I can't remember enjoying one so much.

XenoBitch · 10/07/2025 18:43

Just soup here. My appetite goes in the hot weather.

K0OLA1D · 10/07/2025 18:47

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 10/07/2025 18:36

We had Chinese which is not our normal Thursday night dinner but it was amazing. I had my fifth endoscopy this year and had been on nil by mouth for 24 hours. I can't remember enjoying one so much.

I remember coming out of hospital once after not eating after a day op and had a Chinese. I think I was 16 so, 15 years ago now, and I swear, I have never come close to enjoying a meal so much in my life.

K0OLA1D · 10/07/2025 18:48

ValleyClouds · 10/07/2025 18:25

I had a jacket and some cottage cheese

Did you air fryer your jacket? That's a game changer

ValleyClouds · 10/07/2025 18:49

@K0OLA1D no but I could! How long for ?

TigerRag · 10/07/2025 18:51

I had pizza

K0OLA1D · 10/07/2025 18:51

ValleyClouds · 10/07/2025 18:49

@K0OLA1D no but I could! How long for ?

Stab them, rub oil on them, salt them, and chuck them in naked on the air fryer setting, 200 degrees for 30 mins, then turn them and put them on again for another 30.

Perfect crispy skins 👌

ValleyClouds · 10/07/2025 19:02

I’ll give it a go! 👍

PandoraSocks · 10/07/2025 19:12

Stab them, rub oil on them, salt them, and chuck them in naked

I was slightly wondering where you were going with that for a second @K0OLA1D!

Have a lovely evening everyone.

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 10/07/2025 19:19

I'm going to give the potatoes a go I love a baked potato if the skin is dead crispy. I love my air fryer seriously be lost without it.

LadyKenya · 10/07/2025 19:32

I have just finished a rather satisfying burger. I attempted to make a homemade whopper. It went well🍔😁.

XenoBitch · 10/07/2025 19:39

LadyKenya · 10/07/2025 19:32

I have just finished a rather satisfying burger. I attempted to make a homemade whopper. It went well🍔😁.

Ooh, nice! I do love a burger but find it too much hassle to make one at home with all the ingredients etc.
Tesco used to do burger kit things for a few pounds... now they are nearly £7 and have brioche buns... which is a crime if you ask me.

LadyKenya · 10/07/2025 19:48

Quite@XenoBitch. My burger was cheaper than that. I had frozen meat patties in the freezer, which I just take one out in the morning to defrost. I swear by my air fryer as well, which I find so much easier than using the oven, and cheaper to run. It cooked the burger in around ten minutes. A win for me, when low on energy.

XenoBitch · 10/07/2025 19:50

LadyKenya · 10/07/2025 19:48

Quite@XenoBitch. My burger was cheaper than that. I had frozen meat patties in the freezer, which I just take one out in the morning to defrost. I swear by my air fryer as well, which I find so much easier than using the oven, and cheaper to run. It cooked the burger in around ten minutes. A win for me, when low on energy.

Yep, I love my air fryer. Rarely use my oven now.

Italianita · 10/07/2025 20:26

DH not having to cook tonight because we went out for a late lunch.

I managed to walk 8 steps from the car to the restaurant, with my walker.

But shhhh don't tell anybody......