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Troll hunting in FWR

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WarriorN · 08/08/2023 13:54

I appreciate that mn struggled to keep on top of all the posters accusing the op of the story not being true, but it's likely that deleting the thread is exactly what they wanted.

Perhaps you could have put a warning about troll hunting is not tolerated and allow the debate to continue.

No one can with certainty say a lot of what is posted on mn 'actually happened' but the thread had discussions of women's safety issues on it which warranted remaining.

Troll hunting in FWR
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WarriorN · 08/08/2023 13:55

@mnhq

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sunshinesupermum · 08/08/2023 13:56

I agree OP

lifeturnsonadime · 08/08/2023 13:57

Totally agree, that post should not have been removed.

It's given the troll hunters exactly what they wanted and shut a women up.

Likely to see more fervent troll hunting on FWR if you give posters exactly what they want as a result.

Bippertyboo2 · 08/08/2023 13:59

Totally agree

WarriorN · 08/08/2023 14:00

Infuriated me as this was a thread about a child with autism who should be being taught to call out some specific safeguarding issues.

If the boy were a girl, and that thread deleted, even worse.

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JenniferBarkley · 08/08/2023 14:00

It was such a ridiculous "And then everyone on the bus applauded" post though, of course it was going to get those comments.

Boomboom22 · 08/08/2023 14:00

Agree its a way to shut people up when the tra don't like too many facts coming in.

SoCentralRain · 08/08/2023 14:02

Well given I was suspended for alleged troll hunting (on a different board) I want to know why MN don't suspend these posters instead of taking the whole thing down and letting them get away with it? Hmm

norijunior · 08/08/2023 14:03

Agreed - troll hunters should be penalised, not the OP.

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 14:06

Given that many of the people calling it out as untrue were fairly regular FWR posters, and that troll hunting generally isn't seen much elsewhere on that particular board (except when the regular posters accuse a new poster of being a man / TRA), I really doubt this was a targeted TRA effort to remove the thread. It was pretty unbelievable.

WarriorN · 08/08/2023 14:09

Maybe, the poster has a recent history.

Personally I prefer debating the key points raised, which I did. I have experienced children shouting out in similar ways, calling a spade a spade (usually children with autism who can often ignore social conventions) like that as well as issues in changing rooms, with a colleague who was a victim of voyerism.

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WarriorN · 08/08/2023 14:11

If mn decides the poster has dubious intentions, so be it.

However, we all know some kids can be good at calling shit out.

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JenniferBarkley · 08/08/2023 14:24

WarriorN · 08/08/2023 14:11

If mn decides the poster has dubious intentions, so be it.

However, we all know some kids can be good at calling shit out.

And that often when they do, they are spectacularly rude.

Crapsummer · 08/08/2023 14:26

I don't know the thread that this is regarding. So my reply is general.

I do agree once a thread is removed the trolls/huners have got what they wanted. Even sensitive /support threads get deleted. And probably left the op feeling shit and alone . No one seens to think of that .

Then you have the troll hunters rubbing their hands saying I told you so.

I also think some troll hunters are actually trolls .

Also I think the op should be asked what they want . Do they want do they want the thread removed ?

For me personally on my own threads I very rarely report any nastiness. Because I want the comment to stay so others can see how nasty that poster is. If the comment is deleted its protecting them and hiding their nasty comment.

WarriorN · 08/08/2023 14:31

Rudeness is contextual. That's what kids find so hard.

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WarriorN · 08/08/2023 14:33

That analysis would fit well crap

I did unfortunately report a troll hunt post earlier on but they came thick and fast and in idiot language. "DHOTYA" etc.

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XDownwiththissortofthingX · 08/08/2023 14:44

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lifeturnsonadime · 08/08/2023 14:47

It wasn't an obvious wind up though, my kid might have said the same thing, because he's autistic and has no filter.

Just like he's asked fat women if they're pregnant before.

WarriorN · 08/08/2023 14:53

We won't know if the situation happened. It's impossible to know.

Previous dubious threads have been met with more debate led challenges. Or discussion of, this seems a dubious thread, however the key points are xyz.

Which is more beneficial to the discussion generally.

I posted an example of a child I didn't know calling me out for taking my male child into the female toilets.

It's just another way to silence any discussion.

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ItsNotRocketSalad · 08/08/2023 14:55

Excellent post XDownwiththissortofthingX

WarriorN · 08/08/2023 14:56

That child was 4, my child was 5. His insistence that I was doing the wrong thing was a bit of a surprise but also something I know kids do do.

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Flickersy · 08/08/2023 15:00

ItsNotRocketSalad · 08/08/2023 14:55

Excellent post XDownwiththissortofthingX

Seconded.

Lots of posters, when it comes to certain topics, seem to lose all sense of scepticism and critical thinking, and will swallow literally anything if it allows them to think badly of a trans person or allows them to celebrate someone "calling out" a trans person.

It's not proper GC debate or discussion, it's just a dog whistle designed to generate ill-feeling.

WarriorN · 08/08/2023 15:01

The fact that this one thread was immediately inundated with users, including many with long posting histories, calling it out as complete fantasy surely suggests that it was obvious to most that the OP was so laughably transparent that it is correct the thread was closed.

This depends on the posters' bias of course. I didn't recognise any frequent fwr vipers shouting DHOTYA.

The sheer number of shouts of "troll" was suspicious imo.

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WarriorN · 08/08/2023 15:02

That's debatable Flickersy Grin

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lifeturnsonadime · 08/08/2023 15:02

It's not proper GC debate or discussion, it's just a dog whistle designed to generate ill-feeling

How so? It's not inconceivable that a child might ask a male why he's in a women's changing room?

Of course it's a discussion to be had, unless you think that women shouldn't have the right to single sex spaces in the first place!

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