Do Mumsnet have to report intent to break the law

[LovelyLovelyMe]

If a poster openly declares an intent to break the law, are Mumsnet under an obligation to forward their details to the police?

@rambleon1

OP must be on a wind up, no one gives a toss that much, do they?

Oh, indeed they do! Spends loads of time thinking about it, too.

Oh get fucked OP.

@rambleon1

OP must be on a wind up, no one gives a toss that much, do they?

I think a small minority do yes, they want anyone who doesn’t comply reported and arrested, they will spy on their neighbours and report, their work colleagues, their friends, their family. And they will report them given a chance or urge someone else to.

Welcome to the new army of Covid Marshalls. Many of them will be from the small minority group who feel as the op does.

@LovelyLovelyMe

Inciting violence, plotting murder etc is a crime. Saying that you might have 7 to Christmas dinner (many weeks away) even if the law isn't changed is not a crime.

The police can only intervene with a drunk driver once they are in the drivers seat.

Please do go to the police with this though. They will laugh you out of the room.

Thank you so much for this thread. I’d been feeling a little down but this has given me a proper belly laugh. 😂

I'm sure anyone who thinks like this knows absolutely no one who actually works for the police. If you did, you would know that they will take as much notice of MN reporting that poster 56745 from Doncaster is intending to have Bill, Bob, Sue, Toby, Jack, John and Karen round for tea as they would if you called up and asked them to remove the spider in your bath.

They haven't got the fucking resources.

As far as I know MNHQ have e-mail addresses and they could track someone from their ISP number but posters of bullshit and those who practice showboating for attention are not necessarily committing a crime as what they post may be utter bollocks or not! The police have better things to do than trot round everyone's house because someone says the occupant may possibly be going to commit a crime such as have an extra bod in their house.

Well that would shut down all covid chat pretty quickly

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Also can you imagine if every time somebody had a rant on here about something (maybe parking like a wrong 'un, where would it stop?)
There'd be nowt left to post about

but posters of bullshit and those who practice showboating for attention are not necessarily committing a crime as what they post may be utter bollocks or not!

Exactly, how do you ascertain whether it's true or it's somebody just trying to be Billy Big Bollocks sounding well 'ard and talking out of their bum lol

@EDSGFC

I don't know about MN reporting people but I do think posts actively encouraging people to break the law should be taken down

This.

Given that MN is a moderated site it feels wrong for it not to extend the moderation policy to people who are inciting/encouraging others to break the law. There are some posters who admit to breaking a law (the 'inaccidentally broke the law' types) which are one thing, but then there are those who actively encourage others to break the law whilst admitting they also have or intend to - and this is not ok.

The danger of the spreading of misinformation about covid is known. Whilst you have to draw the line somewhere otherwise there is a risk of censorship, I think it is when someone states they intend to break a law the post should be taken down. You can make your point about why you disagree with a law without going as far as stating you intend to knowingly break it.

It all reminds me a bit of Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter. That’s the image that springs to mind,

All anyone would have to do is throw in a few ‘theoretically’ in.

In theory, I could host a small garden party with 8 people in total. The risk would be incredibly low, unlike the very real risk I have every time I step into school for my job

@Saucery

All anyone would have to do is throw in a few ‘theoretically’ in.

In theory, I could host a small garden party with 8 people in total. The risk would be incredibly low, unlike the very real risk I have every time I step into school for my job

And I think that's ok because i think that another reader is less likely to break the law reading that, than if it said 'I am having 8 people round for a party in my garden regardless of the rules as I think the risk is less than I have at work'.

Bearing in mind that someone can stand up in Parliament and state that the government intend to break the law, I don't think that Mumsnet don't have anything to worry about 🤣🤣

in the nicest possible way, OP, I truly think you need to step away from Mumsnet /social media for a while.

This is a very unhealthy way of thinking.

I disagree about reporting to police (even if it were feasible/possible) but I don't think MN should be a place which normalises breaking the law. Argue the merit or otherwise of a law all day if you like, but it isn't a place to boast fully claim you will break it.

@LovelyLovelyMe

What if it was 15 people, 20 people, 100 people, 1000 people? at what point would you think it is reportable?

What if the next person disagrees with your figure and doubles it? The

Luckily, you don't have to decide because it has been set at 6. It's not a grey area for you, me or Mumsnet to decide. It has been set at 6. The line has been drawn and there it is. Over 6 and you will be fined.

Oh behave, Dominic Cummings broke the law in my home town but got away with it, the grinch is on here telling everyone he is going to Steal Christmas, so whilst you reporting a mum for celebrating her baby's 1st Birthday, perhaps report that and all the fraudsters on the IVF threads as well. The number you need is 101 🙄

Got to be a wind up.

I suspect that a large majority of people will break this law, but the brighter ones will not publicise their decision

The point at which it becomes reportable is when the law is broken. Stating intent is not against the law and it is not something that is required to be reported unless there is a law against it for example if it was a post about intent to murder and a person didn’t report it, having participated in a conversation and believing the intent you could be charged with being an accessory although highly unlikely (if not impossible) on an open Internet forum. Mumsnet does not have a duty of care to ensure its users do not commit a crime. They could not be fined. They are struggling to impose a duty of care on Facebook for users who have witnessed suicide and other very disturbing content which has had a direct harm against Facebook users (without which they would not have experienced the harm). Mumsnet is simply no comparison to this. So no duty of care breach and regardless no law broken means there is nothing to report.

Here are the site terms and conditions.

It doesn't say anything about reporting crime but does say if someone identifiable is at risk then they will contact the authorities.

@BittersweetMemories

Well done. You have won the award for thee most ridiculous thing I have ever read on here.

To be clear, you are saying that you think MNHQ should report, to the police, the name and contact information of a person on an anonymous Internet forum for intending to have a gathering of more than 6 people.

Are you okay????

Yes! For a 1 year old baby!

Oh get fucked OP.

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Every time I put on a mask when doing the shopping with DC I ask if we should go rob a shop. If OP hears me I expect I'll be the recipient of a flying tackle and citizens arrest.

That liven up the trip to Sainsbury's.