Qui tacet consentire videture... I want it to be understood by MNHQ and by guests to this site that my silence on the subject of the recent speculative threads does NOT condone their existence.

[Aitch]

Aitch.

By haychee on Sun 09-Sep-07 12:21:49
The fact that the threads keep reappearing must proove there is quite a few who do not find it all distasteful.

and of course there are quite a few who do not find it distasteful. but as is being demonstrated, there are quite a few who do, but who haven't been on the threads to say so. that's all. it's not a big deal.

silence can be thought to give consent, but my silence (and that of many others) has come from weariness rather than not caring what is being written. i guess that's all i wanted to know, if there were others who felt the same.

i don't think it's an attempt to change MN, promote censorship, or anything particularly negative in fact. quite the opposite, at least for me, i've been quite heartened to see so many people on here who i haven't seen around so much recently.

I think the "I am avoiding" threads are a bit passive aggressive. They're hostile but, by refusing to engage, seem calm.

im still stunned thaqt jeremy vile was vile aboutme

mumsnet..its about mums sticking together innit???

not using other peoples misfortune to gloat mindlessly, stick the knife in and feel smug about something they REALLY KNOW NOTHING about.

yuck..they're the ones that would have stood watching witches burn, and said it was all their own fault.

Agree NKF.

It's the 'I'm above it all' air which is annoying - from those who do post on McCann threads (for whatever reason).

And that, me dears, is hypsocrisy.

whatever hypsocrisy is LOL

So NKF, if we voice our distaste on a Mcann thread we are subject to 'if you don't like don't read'. If we sabotage we are unfair.
If we start a thread voicing our own concerns we are 'above it all'.

What would you have us do? [Apart from shutup]

roobie, so if you came across a group of people taking part in racist banter, the best way of stopping them would simply be to abstain?

You caould, of course, argue that the best way to stop it would be to enguage, but that has been tried and fans the fames, and frankly I can't cope with the nausea that 'debating' would cause me.

this is my way of doing what I can

Singersgirl

(Though obviously not condoning censorship....)

i definitely think it's hostile. when was it pretending to be otherwise? i am definitely hostile to the morons who are posting about the smell of corpses on people's clothing.

it is absolutely a way of expressing my disapproval without engaging, that's what was appealing. although now that everyone's discussing the rights and wrongs of it then it's not the same thing. but a long list of names would have been some sort of note of disapproval, i think. and now plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. [ponce]

littleapin - censoring a whole subject from discussion

and censoring ofensive posts are not the same thing.

i dont understand what those of you signed on this thread are arguing for?

in a ...i hold my candle in protest....kinda way.

what are you protesting at?

offensive posts>?

there exists a mechanism

protesting about the posting about the subject in its totallity?

if sooo - then you are protesting becuase you would like.... what? you want mumsnet HQ to know that you dont condone the threads..... condone them what? being there?

ergo

you want them removed?

this thread is pointless.

littleapin - quite frankly your picking at the minutia

Aitch, I certainly don't think there is anything wrong with being hostile to moronic speculation.

Niceglasses, I don't really understand the question you are asking me. Of course people who are being criticised will say "piss off." I wouldn't say that sabotage was unfair - did MN? I just think it hampers debate.

I'd like to apologise to NKf there, sorry, misread your post - might have something to do with drinking wine and cooking tea.........sorry, I think I thought you were saying something else. [glug]

Bloody hell! I wish you lot would shut up about it all - how many threads have there been in the last couple of days about the McCanns? This is just one more imo. Points have been made and remade, old ground has been dug over and over and to what end? Nobody has won. Nobody even listens to anybody else anymore.

I'm fed up of all this pointless talk and attention-seeking of certain posters who don't seem to be able to talk about anything else.

Why not switch off your pcs and go do some parenting.

This is just stupid.

And I would welcome censoring if it means that I don't have to read about the McCanns everytime I come onto Mumsnet. Even threads that have totally innocuous titles turn out to be debates on them!

I suspect I amd nit picking but in the friendliest of spirits and by way of enquiry. I'm just curious as to what people feel they are doing when they sign up to this statement. I think I understand it - it's a form of indirect protest. Yes? But it's not avoiadance.

You don't have to read about the McCanns, Rhubarb.

donnie. Times ten. Oh but my it's hard not to castigate those vultures circling overhead....but I will try.

At least there is some sensible comment on this thread. TBH I'm less disgusted by the speculation than the extreme mawkishness of it all - but then the meeja atm is bringing out my inner callous bastard...

FWIW, rhubarb, I wish we could opt out. I found one by accident yesterday and felt ill at the things being posted.

ATM we can't argue, they don't listen, tell us they have a right to free speech, and to go away and no read

We can't multi post, MN towers have made that clear.

We can't post other threads to mask them because that is 'silly and childish'

We can't have a threat objecting to what they say because that is anti free speech (and I'm still trying to work my way through that one.

And ignoring them leaves them to post on regardless, feeling that they are in the majority, becayse the rest of us are too worn out and sickened to argue.

So what can we do?

Seriously, what can we do to register our distaste?

Tell be a way that avoids a bun fight and I'll jump on it.

and ignoring them hasn;t exactl;y worked, has it?