MNHQ - why are you so squeamish about any discussion about leaving the EU

[ElfinStardust]

I know there is a Brexit board - and very valuable it is too. I know you don't want AIBU flooded with Brexit related topics. But why are you moving genuine AIBU threads onto the Brexit board? They are proving popular at engaging MNers who don't frequent the Brexit topic and are very informative. You allow so many "posting here for traffic" threads to stay. You've told me you get a lot of reports/complaints - why give in to the people who are trying to stifle debate and information sharing? It's like you're encouraging the dumbing down of MN.

Though of course the over 65s are those who voted 'yes' to confirm our membership in the first place, back in the 1970s

I think a lot of this sort of demonising is lazy ageism, or just wanting a scapegoat.

Can't these delicate little flowers just scroll on past the threads that give them 'Brexit overload' without MummyNetHQ having to hide it from them?

How to be condescending in 3 easy steps

Like it or not Brexit IS a massive deal for every person and especially children in the UK AND the whole of Europe. European taxes are rising to cover the cost of the Brexit exercise (£400 per person in Holland). It also has minor ripples across ALL countries. Stick your fingers in your ears if you wish, but it is a major deal. People WILL die due to some of the effects, be it delayed medicine, shortage of NHS staff or whatever. Joe Cox was just the first.

Copied from part of MNHQ post a page or so ago.

{There are some interesting points on this thread though, such as the comment someone made about the Brexit board being a bit too 'hidden away'. We will have a think about that. If anyone else has any other ideas on how we can improve things for everyone please do share them, we are reading.}

I, and I believe a couple of others contacted MNHQ 4 or 5 months ago requesting a 'Brexit' button moderately prominent on the home page. Somewhere on the top blue bar would be ideal.
Obviously their powers of thinking aren't that hot (I may well get banned again for saying so). I would point out the hypocrisy of MNHQ having their 'podcast event' in a large box on the home page for over a week.

you personally don't want to hear why people voted Leave
I'd love to hear what good people thought would come from voting leave

platitudes and soundbites will not cut it
I would like to know what three day to day tangible improvements leave voters are expecting
so that they can be sure it did what they expect
I've waited 2 1/2 years for an answer
I'm not fatigued yet

I'd like to hear it too. (Reasons to be cheerful about Brexit) I'd also like to know why Brexit topics are shoved off AIBU.

WitchesWeb - don't you find it more condescending that MNHQ feel the need to move serious political threads out of your immediate sight as you might be fatigued and need some light relief?

Does anyone on either side have anything new to say? This thread has proved categorically that they don't. Again.

WitchesWeb - don't you find it more condescending that MNHQ feel the need to move serious political threads out of your immediate sight as you might be fatigued and need some light relief?

No. They have their own section. Unless you hide it they come up in active if you want them.

It really isn't difficult.

Does anyone on either side have anything new to say? This thread has proved categorically that they don't. Again.

Pretty much. I am enjoying the foot stamping and pouting though.

Can't these delicate little flowers just scroll on past the threads that give them 'Brexit overload' without MummyNetHQ having to hide it from them?

How to illustrate the point we've been making beautifully.

Elfin a, presumably, significant number of MN users asked for a separate Brexit Topic because they were unhappy with the main boards being totally dominated by this one issue do their views not count? MN wants its' users to enjoy using the site and to continue returning and if that means they don't want walls of serious political threads so be it, you cannot force people to read, engage or discuss a particular issue just because you feel strongly about it.

Did the thread that was moved have a significant number of new posters? Or was it just the same posters that appear on all the Brexit threads saying the same things?

Gerda
New to say
So you do not want to be informed about what might happen next march?
Do you think you already knew?

I am near the Ireland / Ulster border at the moment
NOTHING I read or saw in England has prepared me for how viscerally a hard Brexit will affect this area.

So there is aLWAYS more to learn

New to say
So you do not want to be informed about what might happen next march?
Do you think you already knew?

Other websites, newspapers, educated friends, and academic & political think tanks are available.

I don't get my news and opinions from Mumsnet which has a surprisingly small number of participants on these repetitive threads.

While it is not answering Elfin's original question the next couple of weeks are going to be rather important for everyone.
At the end of these couple of weeks, perhaps a little longer, many will be seriously worried that they or their partners will be losing their jobs at the end of March. There is likely to be a new budget, which will announce where the cuts to fund Brexit will fall.
If there is no deal, there is a fair risk of panic as the implications of the Government plans which they will say they were 'instructed' by Leavers.
If this does not interest you, you can always discuss whether the receptionist was out of order.

{I don't get my news and opinions from Mumsnet which has a surprisingly small number of participants on these repetitive threads.}

This is partly due to some of the posters doing real research and not taking the Daily fail as their source. Much of the information that apparently even MPs are discovering was talked about nearly 3 years ago. Mr Raab has only recently discovered that most of the food that the UK eats comes via Dover so a near total blockage MIGHT just be important.

Oooh! I didn't know any of that @1tisILeClerc

Joking! I spend time elsewhere and am quite capable of investigating for myself. You seem to be insinuating that without your enlightened posting other MN-etters would be in the dark.

How patronising.

Like I care what you think?
Unless they are all taking the pi$$ there is a continual stream of posters coming up with the most ridiculous questions such as the wisdom of booking a holiday to fly on March 29th next year.

RedDogsBeg

Did the thread that was moved have a significant number of new posters? Or was it just the same posters that appear on all the Brexit threads saying the same things?

It's not important who posts, but who reads. I would guess the vast majority (millions?) are lurkers rather than contributors. And that's, ultimately, what matters to MNHQ - no. of clicks = £££

Some of the Brexit threads in AIBU have attracted questions from people who genuinely didn't know what was going on. So if regular posters on the Brexit board were able to explain then surely that's a good thing. You don't want to keep people in the dark - do you?

"led by the feelings of the users"

That's a bit rich. Never saw that when it came to trans issues. MNHQ sort of make it up as they go along, don't they?

In a way the continuing 'fine detail' that is posted by the dedicated few on the Westminsterenders threads (I am not claiming to be one of them) are providing a useful service as much of the usual media (newspapers, BBC radio and TV) have NOT been reporting accurately, either for their own agenda or because there have been restrictions imposed.
If you need prescription medicines you NEED to be considering what might happen if they are not available for a while so you should be writing to your MP and asking your doctor/pharmacist.
The government is STILL in chaos, the 'deal' put up last night is not signed by anybody and there will be uncertainty for a few weeks yet.
While Gerda may have time to root out real information, most don't, and so will only get a glimpse of a newspaper headline or a bit of cotton wool waffle from the TV.

Of course I don't want people to kept in the dark Elfin, but how are people being kept in the dark when Brexit is a hot topic all over social media, the print and online press and the daily broadcast news? Are you saying that posters on the Brexit threads have a unique knowledge and unbiased insight into Brexit that no other form of media has?

Yes, MN is read a lot by lurkers, who may or may not have a registered account with MN, and the vast majority of those access MN via the 'Active' option on which Brexit Threads within the Brexit Topic show up. They are only hidden from 'Active' if a user actively customises their feed to hide the topic, which non registered lurkers can't do and an awful lot of registered users can't work out how to do either, hence the numerous threads asking how to hide a thread/topic.

How users and lurkers want to use MN and the content they want to read is surely their own choice? MN have dedicated specific topics to several subjects at the behest of and to cater for their users interests, I don't see how that equates to them silencing or denying information to people.