Gransnet strapline - we would love your thoughts

[CariGransnet]

Gransnet, sister site to Mumsnet, has a new look and is now looking for a new strap line to match. We'd love you to help us choose it if you can. First a bit of myth-busting (in case anyone hasn't yet ventured on):

1. You don't need to be a gran (just as on MN you don't need to be a mum)
2. For those falling into the right sort of age bracket - roughly 50+ - it works really well alongside MN (they're very different. Both is good!)
3. We're firm on two things - 50 isn't remotely old, and even if it were age is no barrier to pretty much anything.

The most popular suggestions so far have been the following (below) - but we'd love to know your thoughts - and indeed any alternative ideas.

Gransnet - for warmth, wit and wisdom

Gransnet - a bit older, a lot wiser

Gransnet - older, wiser but definitely not quieter

Many thanks
CariGransnet and LaraGransnet

I don't like the typeface either. There is a reason people don't use Times New Roman for typing letters anymore.

Why do we need a gransnet anyway?
Simple, more money for mn. It's not a social service, it's a lucrative source of income. But they seem to have come a cropper with gn as, frankly, it doesn't work. Hence the makeover.

my strapline of 'picking up speed' was clearly lost on you all

Loving by parents of parents.

Wiser, warmer, wittier

I'm sorry, but wiser warmer wittier makes me feel sick. It's all of society's expectations (apparently from 'invisible ') put together. As a previous poster said, would you use that for a forum of older men?

Facts aren't rude. The typeface is awful and breaks all the accessibility guidelines. Frilly serifs, not good.

Relaunch usually means ' stuffed up'. Pig slow, endless scrolling, flicky ads. Fisher-price website design.

PMSL at specialsubject's Blue Rinse Central - she's nailed it!

Seriously, after looking around the landing page from the OP's link, all I could think was:

Gransnet: Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here.

I'm not sure any strapline would lure me in - just had a look, and think I prefer to stay on the MN site.
Not ready to be corralled into an age related cul de sac .

Gransnet - Vintage but not Retro

(You need to know your definitions for this one; Vintage meaning older; Retro meaning in the manner of former times but actually modern.)

• not modern but new is what I meant. Soz.

Forget what I wrote, I just went to have a look at it. Oh dear. I hope you get the effect you want MNHQ, but I fear as pp have said its not an avenue I would wander down to oblivion and social death.

There is something rather suffocating about it, full of 'elderly' advertising. What I love about MN original is that it's vibrant and stimulating. GN is neither, sadly.

From my experience, it's a strange mix of blue rinse and uncompromisingly nasty, with far more personal insults and angry pm-ing than on here. On here, you feel you can debate a topic and agree to disagree in a civilised way; over on GN there are posters who seem to devote their whole lives to the business of putting others' opinions down. It's no wonder hardly anyone posts. There's one poster who's been banned from the site (not sure why) and members are STILL talking about her like she was some sort of saint.

It's like being in a bloody playground all over again!

Shame really, because it could be really relevant and interesting to both grans and non-grans alike. The market must be huge for a decent forum for the age group. That's not being ageist, by the way; there are so many issues that affect this age group that younger people may not find interesting or relevant but are worthy of discussion all the same.

I think that not being able to name change is a real disadvantage on GN.
MN and GN are like 2 circles interlocking for most of their extent, except MN is full of posters angry with their mothers and going non-contact with their families, and GN is full of unhappy mothers who can't understand why their children don't contact them. Perhaps they should be forced to go on the same forum to see each others' side of the story.
Otherwise I think GN has a more traditional group of posters, attitude-wise. I'm in the age band, but I don't fit there.

More angry and more rude messages than mn??? Bloody hell. ..

Gransnet - the things we wish we knew way back when

special I don't think I worded that comment particularly well.

What I should have said is that there seems to be quite a lot of nastiness relative to the traffic on the site. You kind of expect it on Mnet because of the size and dynamism of the site and you can easily avoid threads and topics that are scary.

On Gnet the nastiness is more obvious because there's not much going on. Much of the posting is twee and dull, and the threads that look more interesting tend to quickly descend into a stream of personal attacks.

It started off quite promisingly, with some good natured joshing and repartee. There used to be some guys posting too, adding to the sense of fun.

Now it seems to be dominated by a few posters who attack you with a clicky link if you dare express an opinion. There's definitely a hierarchy of posters vying for attention. It reminds me a bit of what a women's prison would be like-too many people with too much time on their hands.

buggerthebotox

Gransnet - just like prison

Gransnet - if I go there, shoot me.

I dip Into GN occasionally. I don't understand what is meant by twee. I love an example if that is possible? As to being dull, I have to agree that a lot of what is posted does not appeal, but the same is true of any site.

How about

Gransnet ===>> this way to the knackers yard

OMG buggerthebotox sounds horrendous

I have to say, I rail against labels - somehow Mumsnet doesn't give the same sense of hardline pidgeonholing that Gransnet does.

Gransnet- We Are Not Being Unreasonable.

Oh dear. Just had a look at GN and found it deeply depressing.