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Seriously MN this is fucking bullshit.

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DeathAnTaxes · 24/08/2016 23:14

Message from MNHQ: We're afraid we felt we had to delete this thread as we feel like it has strayed way outside of our Talk Guidelines. We do regard deliberate, malicious misgendering (as opposed to accidental slip ups) as transphobic. Thank you to everyone who took the time to post thoughtfully here. We understand folks will want to talk more about pronouns and trans issues in general on another thread perhaps - but we would ask that you do so in way that doesn't rehash or repeat this thread. Thanks.&Message from MNHQ: We're afraid we felt we had to delete this thread as we feel like it has strayed way outside of our Talk Guidelines. We do regard deliberate, malicious misgendering (as opposed to accidental slip ups) as transphobic. Thank you to everyone who took the time to post thoughtfully here. We understand folks will want to talk more about pronouns and trans issues in general on another thread perhaps - but we would ask that you do so in way that doesn't rehash or repeat this thread. Thanks.

ONE poster wanted to discuss pronouns and they won. A thread about women being shut down by transactivists was shut down by a ta.

Fucking brilliant.

AND FOR THE RECORD THE PERSON'S PRONOUNS ARE 'THEY'

A vile misogynist was "misgendered" be being called he, because we can not even discuss who is doing this.. It is he's. It is men.

they was not even a thing 5 years ago. If I today demanded my pronouns be "Vagina owner" would everyone have to respect that?

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KiranMumsnet · 25/08/2016 10:14

Morning everyone,

There have been a number of recent threads on transgenderism, with strong views all round. We know some of you are unhappy with how we have handled them, so we thought it might be useful for us to clarify our position.

First and foremost, we’d like to remind everyone that Mumsnet is a site built on the values of tolerance, supportiveness and respect. We’re sure you’re all aware of our Talk guidelines by now. The key points in terms of transgenderism are, firstly, that we aim to keep intervention to a minimum and let the conversation flow, but that secondly, we will delete posts that we consider to be transphobic - and we think it’s sensible to ask users to adhere to principles of mutual respect and courtesy.

In recent days, some of you have been unhappy with the way in which we’ve dealt with the question of pronouns. Generally we delete posts in which people persistently refuse to refer to people by the pronoun (he/she/they) by which they’ve asked to be referred, out of respect for that individual’s wishes. We tend to take the view that folk should refer to people by the name and pronoun those people choose - and we at MNHQ will be discussing all the points you’ve raised about this.

Transgenderism is a complex issue and one which has really only been discussed widely in the last couple of years. We are aware that there is a debate to be had about the differences between biological sex and gender, and how pronouns figure in this, and we’re glad that Mumsnet is a place where people feel able to have that debate. We are keen to make sure it takes place in a way that’s as civil and constructive as possible.

MNHQ

KiranMumsnet · 25/08/2016 17:18

Hello again everyone,

We're still getting lots of reports from you on this thread - and we want you to know that we hear you, but it's going to take us time to work through these complex, emotive issues before we can get back to you with a fully considered response. Thank you all for your input, please do continue to add your thoughts.

We'd like to reassure you once again that MNHQ will be discussing the points you've raised here and on other recent threads on transgenderism, and we will be responding once we have had a full and lengthy debate about this.

MNHQ

KateSMumsnet · 25/08/2016 17:35

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