Not sure where to ask about this awful terrible baby advice you have published?

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www.mumsnet.com/babies/features/developing-a-routine

What on earth?

Mumsnet advice pages used to be reasonably balanced and evidence based. Saw this shared on Facebook and wondered wtf someone was thinking?

Make it stop before someone tries this bollocks on their new baby!

Bloody hell, MNHQ, that is awful. Have you got Gina Ford working on commission over there or something?

This is like something my MIL would write, it's so archaic...

What the fuckity fuck? Clearly written by someone who has never actually met a baby.... Will also report.

Really not cool. Disappointing.

I don't understand why people get so angry, these are guidelines, not a mandatory way of life.

I so wish I had all those advice for my first, my life would have been a lot happier. It works for all my others, apart from the swaddling. It's true that in most cases, if a baby eats enough during the day, he won't need to be fed at night. If a baby doesn't cry at night and sleep happily, as well as putting on weight, it means he doesn't need to be fed every 30mn.

It is also true, in most cases, that if a baby sleeps for hours during the day, he might not sleep so well at night.

You can parent as you please, no one is forcing you .I have tried and witnessed these advice overseas, and they work. You might believe it's bollocks, but other mums will benefit greatly from help. I can testify I tried these, and they work for me.

I was thinking "what is all the fuss about" then I just read it

What crap

Wind your baby after every feed? Mine rarely needed winding

And don't forget to change the nappy every time too. ....

It's not the advice so much as the tone. That somehow you are doing it wrong if you don't do this. And it does not fit at all with establishing breastfeeding by feeding on demand.

What
The
Fuck

Get rid, now please, MN

I can testify I tried these, and they work for me.

And I can testify I tried some of these, because of family and HV telling me I had to, and ended up with a furious, hungry, overtired baby, painful blocked ducts, and a lot of crying from both of us. Glad I gave up pronto.

It is very prescriptive.

Babies need x...

You must do this or y will happen...

Agree with cat - and I am sure other people probably agree but daren't post on this thread because they have a different opinion.

Many people like to follow a GF routine and it can work very well for some people. I followed it, loved it, had a happy, sleeping baby from day 1 - may have been sheer luck of course .

The advice that babies who sleep in your arms will develop bad habits is clearly bollocks especially with a very young baby.

That's fine if you choose to do that.

This article almost presents itself as fact though. And is not the experience of most people with a bf newborn.

That was in reply to Ragwort.

Its bollocks.

And I say this as the mother of a baby who put him myself into a routine...the same one GF prescribes. Although I didn't read the book until he was 2.

How the hell do you space Feds out for fucks sake??? B

*feeds

Most of that 'advice' is just shit which is more than likely to add stress to new mothers.

Shame on you HQ Would the advice by any chance be directed by nurofen?

That's crazy! I have 18 week old twins and none of this would work for us as a family, they love their daytime naps (unswaddled ) and sleep really well at night. If ever we change a nappy after a feed they both throw up, so I change them before their feeds.
All babies are different, trying to follow this sort of routine will make a lot of mums worry they aren't doing well if their babies don't react well to it.

I agree and I read this and thought I don't remember it being like that with ds1 who is now 2 and a half and definitely doesn't wake for food in the night! and now 7 weeks in with ds2 I'm definitely doing something wrong!! They sleep eventually...they get in a routine eventually! Crap like this makes everyone worry!

Who the hell is Rachel Waddilove?

Never heard of her and I don't think I want to.

Even the advice for FF babies is to feed on demand and never force them to finish a bottle

Teaching a baby to self-settle; Bursts out laughing. One of mine figured it out in days, one after several years. I don't believe my actions had any affect.