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What is Mumsnets definition of transphobia?

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TheRealPosieParker · 08/07/2016 13:32

That's it really.

Mine would be hate or violence against trans people. Mine would not be "misgendering" or acknowledging transwomen are male and that they are not women.

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DoinItFine · 08/07/2016 22:50

Ego

Hope the surgery goes well.

Whenever I hear people are having surgery I seem to revert to the 16th century in terms of my dread.

No idea why, I've had some very successful surgery.

Anyway, best of luck chica. Let us know how you get on. :)

speakergirl · 08/07/2016 22:50

it isn't about women in particular being nice. It's more about being civil with each other. Would you walk up to Fallon Fox and say 'you are a man, get out of women's MMA?' Of course you wouldn't

BeyondVulvaResistance · 08/07/2016 22:53

I might with fallon fox, I am not a fan of a male who gets paid to beat women. But general people, of course I wouldn't.

poorbuthappy · 08/07/2016 22:54

I might with fallon fox but only if I was holding a baseball bat because only then would it be a fair fight.

BertrandRussell · 08/07/2016 22:55

No of course I wouldn't. And giving someone the wrong pronoun on purpose is crass and boorish. And already a deletable offence.

But we have to be able to talk about this stuff without vague "well if you don't understand how naughty you've been, I'm certainly not going to tell you" and pathetic, juvenile crap like that.

BeyondVulvaResistance · 08/07/2016 22:55

Fallon fox really wasn't a good example around these parts...!!

Egosumquisum · 08/07/2016 22:55

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Notwhatiexpected · 08/07/2016 22:58

Why can't I use "a man in a dress" when I am describing my hairy and intact husband, who is dressed up so he can become physically excited (ahem) by his reflection. He is, isn't he?

IonaMumsnet · 08/07/2016 23:02

Bertrand Er... Where did we say only women should be nice?

Ego - best of luck with the op. Wishing you a speedy recovery.

VashtaNerada · 08/07/2016 23:06

^And no we aren't stopping transwomen from choosing their own pronouns. We are trying to stop transwomen from choosing our pronouns.
Why is that so difficult to understand?^
Was that to me? I think we're saying the same thing poor. There are some posters who want to chose pronouns for others and I don't think that's acceptable, whether it's someone calling a transwoman "he" or calling a biological female "cis" against their wishes. (I think it's okay to make a mistake btw as long as you apologise and then move on. I used to call people cis because it's a label I use myself but now I know some people find it offensive I avoid it when talking about others.) And of course there is no one trans rhetoric or one trans viewpoint, plenty of argument within trans communities on terminology etc, as there is within the feminist community.

GipsyDanger · 08/07/2016 23:09

notwhatiexpected
I believe your husband would be classed as a transvestite, not transsexual.

poorbuthappy · 08/07/2016 23:09

Tbh it wasn't to anyone in particular.
I think you could pick my comment up and put it in any of the 100 threads a week about it.

We go round in circles never getting an answer to as why transwomen trump women.

speakergirl · 08/07/2016 23:13

We go round in circles never getting an answer to as why transwomen trump women.

Sounds like a game of oppression olympics. What about blacks, jews and the disabled?

SuburbanRhonda · 08/07/2016 23:14

I believe your husband would be classed as a transvestite, not transsexual.

Classed by whom? You?

poorbuthappy · 08/07/2016 23:15

Absolutely.
Transwomen shouts cis
Cis women shouts transwomen

Who wins?
Not a fucking woman

poorbuthappy · 08/07/2016 23:17

So if 1 if transphobic then 1 is sexist.

We want neither.

MonkeysWAGMug · 08/07/2016 23:19

Interesting that you use the word 'transvestite', Gipsy. Especially in the context of some of your posts.

GipsyDanger · 08/07/2016 23:21

Not me honey, by the most fabulous noxeema jackson. God I love that movie

Ouriana · 08/07/2016 23:24

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sculptureSong · 08/07/2016 23:55

What's the saying, if it sounds like a duck, looks like a duck... It's probably a duck hmm

And if it sounds like a man, looks like a man?

Ouriana · 09/07/2016 00:10

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HermioneWeasley · 09/07/2016 07:50

"Being nice" is what let Christopher/Jessica Hanbrook into 2 women's shelters where he went to to sexually assault 4 women (well, one was 15). I'd rather go for factual and accurate than nice.

HermioneWeasley · 09/07/2016 07:52

HQ when are you going to make a decision on the weeing thread?

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