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Hey MNHQ. Would it be possible to have a discussion about how SN issues/threads are handled on the main boards.

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Pagwatch · 12/06/2016 11:38

I know you are fire fighting a bit and I'm not trying to stir things up.

I just think that there are endless threads that require you to get involved and try to (for the sake of a better word) mediate between pissed of posters with no real experience of SN/disability and pissed off member of the SN/disability community.

I think you try really really hard to be fair and even handed. It's an understandable response but I have growing doubts about it.
There have been half a dozen threads recently where posters I recognise as living with SN/disability issues deal with a continuous stream of posts from any random who pops up on a thread making the same stupid, ill informed or frankly goady post.
It's like swimming through a tidal wave of shit.
Then, as posters get increasingly exasperated by each arriving poster saying 'well I'm not putting my buggy away if my baby is asleep' or 'why can't I use the disabled toilet if it's empty' or 'but people with SN can be violent. I know of stabbing someone and attacks all the time' they get rude and the thread descends into eurrgh.

I'm still reading constant posts where anyone affected by disability is berated if they are angry, the message being 'be nice, be grateful or we don't have to be fair'

It seems to me that the status quo of 'fairness' is simply unfair.
Posters already dealing with immense difficulty shouldn't be forced to defend themselves against every person who turns up and says unpleasant things under the umbrella of debate. You said a long time ago it was not our responsibility to educate but the reality is that, with no palpable support from you guys, we are endlessly having to educate.

I am not pretending to have the answer but is it possible to contemplate methods by which you could actually say to posters saying 'if someone in a wheelchair can't use their space because I'm not putting my buggy away' that their comments are wrong and not in the spirit of the site?

You link to the This Is My Child campaign but the posters who are the problem won't care and won't read it.

I don't know - I just wonder if you could think about this.
Sometimes there are not two sides to a debate because only one side is directly affected, exhausted, distressed and having their lives and their children's lives made harder.

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DixieNormas · 16/06/2016 20:51

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Lonnysera · 16/06/2016 20:56

I agree. Phew!

Maryz · 16/06/2016 21:01

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FlouncyMcFlounceFace · 16/06/2016 21:08

I'm technically a newbie. I flounced and deregistered. Hence the Flouncy name. The McFlounceFace bit will soon date so I may go for seasonal variations theamed around flouncing. FlouncingTheSummerAway, FlouncingThroughTheLeaves, FlouncingInAWinterWonderland etc.

bialystockandbloom · 16/06/2016 21:10

dixie I understood your username first time I saw it Grin

DixieNormas · 16/06/2016 21:39

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DixieNormas · 16/06/2016 21:42

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Samcro · 16/06/2016 22:07

So did both the pox and jealous mum one go

AliceInUnderpants · 16/06/2016 22:13

Jealous mum one yes, deletion message was simply a link to TIMC.

Pox child, seems to be missing - not on my TIO so no deletion message Confused

JacobFryesTopHatLackey · 16/06/2016 22:23

The pox one has been deleted.

Message from MNHQ: The OP has resolved the problem. To everyone who has family members in pain, past or present, our hearts go out to you. Flowers

I reported it to HQ and got this in response.

Hi all, sorry for the mass mail,

Thank you for all your reports about that thread - we will be deleting it shortly.

Best wishes,
MNHQ

I've been following this thread and that one. I'd really like to see HQ review their policy. This week has not been great for goadyness and trolling.

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 17/06/2016 00:34

Dick's enormous! Ha! Grin

I do think the poox deletion message is a step in the right direction

Samcro · 17/06/2016 12:06

i am so angry now at a post on the bus thread I have to go iron to let of steam.
why do we have to put up with it

MrsDeVere · 17/06/2016 12:11

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BishopBrennansArse · 17/06/2016 12:12

Quite. Disabled people don't have demands on their time. Really?

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 17/06/2016 12:18

Know what you mean mrsd. It may well be a 'bunfight', but the educating side gets deleted along with the crap, then we have to have the same conversation again the next time!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 17/06/2016 12:55

1.faster action on reports full stop! Seriously are there not enough staff?!

2 clear deletion messages stating WHY deleted

3 persistent offenders banned - no more just paying lip service to '3 strikes and out' do it!

4 instead of 'peace and love' keep it simple for the clearly hard of thinking offenders - 'Disablist posts will NOT be tolerated, if you post disablist posts you WILL be deleted and risk a ban' . Then they've been warned - no excuses!

5 On buses wheelchair vs pushchair thread (they come up so often) please could we have a standard MNHQ message to put weight behind support of the needs of the disabled person and to clarify reasonable adjustment is law.

6 On pox/ infectious child type threads (another one that appears regularly) please could we have a standard MNHQ message to put weight behind supporting the needs of those who are immune repressed or for whom exposure could cause significant harm.

  1. Sort out the TIMC page that is always linked to - it is ugly, hard to navigate and should really have the myths section as the most obvious bit on the page - the myths section also needs some serious updating with stuff about wheelchair spaces/disabled toilets / all the other topics that are repeated every week.
BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 17/06/2016 13:11

I'd add toilets to the bus/infection response too. You know what the issues are that keep coming up like these, perhaps if it's easier you could have a standard response to each?
I wonder if as well as the timc link, there could be a link to a guest blog on the particular subject?

Samcro · 17/06/2016 13:44

I have asked mn hq tolook at the wc on bus thread,
There is deliberate goading going on
It will be interesting to see if they respond

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 17/06/2016 14:02

I think I made my thoughts clear, rather umm, ineloquently

BishopBrennansArse · 17/06/2016 14:14

You did fine Wink

Jasonandyawegunorts · 17/06/2016 14:15

Thankfully i've missed this bus thread.

PurpleDaisies · 17/06/2016 14:45

Thankfully i've missed this bus thread.

Sadly another one will be along soon...

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 17/06/2016 14:48

Who wants to place bets on which it is next?

Havent had a "family using disabled changing facilities at a pool" for a while, though maybe they'll start up at the end of july...?

BishopBrennansArse · 17/06/2016 14:49

Just like buses WinkGrin

What's the bet there's a prat with a tank buggy on that one too...

Jasonandyawegunorts · 17/06/2016 14:51

4 + year old with a dummy?
Nappies at school?
Have we had a teacher posting about poorly parented children yet?

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