Journalists

[Thebrowntrout]

Is it worth perhaps pointing out to people that their entire posts might end up in the Daily Mail?

I was a tad taken aback to end up on TV and print, and while it made little difference to me, it may be quite distressing in different circumstances for someone.

[Thebrowntrout]

I found the Loose Women thing quite funny, but that didn't quote me directly! DM did which feels more intrusive, somehow.

If I had been asked I would have declined to be quoted, but it is done now. However, I have to admit I've posted on here upset before and been less careful in postings, so I did wonder if a gentle reminder perhaps before threads are submitted might be in order.

[Sparklingbrook]

Don't forget that Mumsnet itself links threads on their FB page, so threads are shared a lot.

[LadyTrevelyan]

I was, under a different name, screenshot and displayed on Mr Wright's show.

It was a surprise but Lorraine Chase agreed with me. So, all was well except I had Luton Airport going around my head.

[SickRose]

Never read the daily mail but just went on the website out of curiosity. Searched mumsnet in the search bar to see if I could find the article you were referring to and I'm shocked! Whole 'articles' that literally involve repeating comments in a thread! I at least expected some commentary around the mumsnet comments but no. It's like a whole thread has been copied and pasted and then classed as an article! Crazy.

[Sparklingbrook]

Yes Sick they don't add much if anything themselves, they just stick the whole lot on. Then of course there's always the lovely readers comments.

[Thebrowntrout]

Yes, that was much what happened to mine!

How silly. Although good advertising for Mumsnet, I guess.

[bibbitybobbityyhat]

Oh don't fret about it, honestly! There was a time not so long ago when HQ wanted a formal, official, relationship with the Daily Mail. When links between here and there would have been positively encouraged and we would have had daily "And this is what Mumsnet thinks" columns in that paper.

Agree with a pp - we tell our children not to overshare on the internet, so why not apply the same rules to ourselves.

[DailyFailAreABunchOfCunts]

MNHQ - please be aware that a thread about bereavement has now been lifted and published on Mail Online.

I have started an AIBU thread on this because I feel very strongly that this is a step too far - even for the DM: AIBU link

Fair enough if a funny or odd thread ends up in the daily rags - but a heartfelt post about losing a child? I feel pretty revolted by this - I doubt the poster was asked by the journalist if she wanted her grief splashing all over their website to act as clickbait.

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

I'm a bit confused about this, and how blasé MNHQ are about it.

Surely it is theft of content that belongs to MNHQ (asuumjng the DM etc don't ask permission). Just because it is credited to MN doesn't make it OK?

[DailyFailAreABunchOfCunts]

I am concerned that the poster is now hugely identifiable - and at a time when she is clearly struggling with the death of her child, the last thing she needs is Paul Dacre's flying monkeys hassling her.

I genuinely cannot remember the last time I was so bloody outraged about something. I have reported this thread and the AIBU thread I started because I really feel that MNHQ need to step in here - at least just to warn the poster that her personal tragedy is now clickbait online.

[DonkeyOaty]

terms of use policy

A reminder that your words are not your own once you hit "post"

I would welcome a discussion with HQ as to what content is considered verboten for dissemination. I have inferred that threads/posts in Relationships/bereavement and OT BT are not for lifting by other parties and generally speaking _chat and AIBU are

Perhaps a steer from the helm would be useful?

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

A reminder that your words are not your own once you hit "post"

Well no, they belong to MN, and yes, anyone can C&P them.

But the terms of use specifically state that you can't reproduce parts if the site for commercial use, which is exactly what the DM are doing.

[DailyFailAreABunchOfCunts]

Absolutely Donkey. But MN can't have it both ways - they can't expect people to use the site as a source of support and guidance, and at the same time expect people to feel 100% comfortable that a post about a child's death is fair game for lazy journalists.

[FelicityR313]

MNHQ are being surprisingly reticent on this matter.

[BoogieTime]

So, MNHQ, as per the terms and conditions of this site, you actually agreed with the DM that they could use the bereaved mother's thread?

Wow. Just, wow.

[gymboywalton]

i think that anyone who thinks that MNHQ ever act in any way other than in their own best interest is deluded.
They made it clear a long time ago that they are a business and as such will do whatever they have to do to maximise profits.

All this stuff about being a site for support is secondary to being a site to make money.

[DailyFailAreABunchOfCunts]

Gymboy - all the more reason to call it out now then, so that people are absolutely clear that 'maximise profit' includes selling threads on a child's death. If they had the OP's permission then fine - all parties have agreed. If MNHQ did it without the poster's permission, then people need to be aware that MNHQ won't ask them or tell them that they're doing this.

[Fairylea]

I thought it was absolutely disgusting they have posted the bereavement thread. Absolutely tasteless journalism.

[paxillin]

But of course the Daily Mail had lots of clicks from this, their usual readership plus all those MNers who don't read DM, but clicked the links.

I think trying to link the Daily Wail on a thread should result in a ugly monster being displayed instead.

[Fluffycloudland77]

Have you seen the journos Twitter?

I doubt she'll uncover the next watergate but I bet she knows what all the emojis mean.

[tilder]

I too am interested in the position of mnhq on this. Its one thing to take inspiration from the innocuous stuff. Quite another to profit lazily from somebodies grief.

Saying that once posted, the words become fair game for anyone to copy and paste, is not something I am comfortable with even though on one level I knew this was the case.

I was quoted in a newspaper but only knew because the journalist sent me a pm. Am presuming most posters have no idea the DM are quoting them.

[DonkeyOaty]

Yes Maryz I have been inferring that some topics are off the table, merely by dint of them not appearing elsewhere. Clarification from HQ would be useful

Glad to know the thread in question has gone. That poor lady

[rumbleinthrjungle]

Relieved to hear the thread is down as it contained a picture of the child. However the detail, particularly about when the child died, and the full name ought to ensure that poor poster has a journalist or two on her doorstep in the next week to earn a bit more out of her grief.