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Site attacks, hackergate and resetting passwords - here's what we know, what we're doing about it and what we think you should do. PLEASE READ!

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JustineMumsnet · 18/08/2015 15:37

On the night of Tuesday 11 August, Mumsnet came under attack from what's known as a denial of service (DDoS) attack. Our servers were bombarded with requests, which required our internet service provider to massively increase server capacity to cope. We were able to restore the site at 10am on Wednesday 12 August. Meanwhile a Twitter account, @DadSecurity, claimed responsibility, saying in various tweets "Now is the start of something wonderful", "RIP Mumsnet", "Nothing will be normal anymore" and "Our DDoS attacks are keeping you offline".

To add to the 'fun', it seems @DadSecurity also resorted to Swatting attacks. Swatting is a criminal practice in which someone makes an emergency call to the police claiming that a crime is taking place at the house of the intended victim, in order to get them to send a swat team to the address.

An armed response team turned up at my house last week in the middle of the night, after reports of a gunman prowling around. A Mumsnet user who engaged with @DadSecurity on Twitter was warned to "prepare to be swatted by the best" in a tweet that included a picture of a swat team, after which police arrived at her house late at night following a report of gunshots. Needless to say, she and her young family were pretty shaken up. It's worth saying that we don't believe these addresses were gained directly from any Mumsnet hack, as we don't collect addresses. The police are investigating both instances.

@DadSecurity also claimed that he had access to Mumsnet user data. Later on 12 August, it became apparent that someone/ones had hacked into some of Mumsnet's administrative functions, at which point they were able to redirect our homepage to the @DadSecurity Twitter profile page, as well as to edit posts from two users' account and an MNHQ account on our forums.

Someone claiming to be the hacker also posted on the thread on which users were discussing the site outage. We immediately locked down all access to our admin functions and reported the attack to the police. We were confident that users' passwords had not been accessed, because MNHQ doesn't hold them as plain text; they're all encrypted, so that no one - not even us - can see them.

However, over the weekend, a user reported that posts had been made under her name which weren't by her, and we spotted two other cases where this had happened. This clearly suggested that the hacker had nonetheless been able to get hold of some users' passwords.

Our best guess at this stage (and it is just a best guess) is that this has been done via a form of phishing, in which the hacker creates a fake Mumsnet login page to which users are directed when clicking on our login button. The page would have had a different url but otherwise would look just like the usual page. The hacker would have been able to see passwords in plain text when they were typed in.

We take great care to protect the information you give us and not to ask for or store any more information than we need to run the site, but though we can't know how many accounts have been affected, there have been enough breaches for us to ask all Mumsnet users to change their passwords. As a result, you'll no longer be able to log in to Mumsnet with your current password, and will need to create a new one, here.

This will mean that any passwords the hacker has been able to harvest up to this point will be useless. We are looking into what we can do to strengthen our defences against phishing, but in the meantime we need to ask you to be vigilant, and to check the URL of the login page for the foreseeable future. The correct URL is www.mumsnet.com/session/login and it reads rather than at the beginning. We will place a warning on the login page reminding you to do this.

Alternatively use the social login option (ie Facebook/Google) as then you won't be required to enter a password. And if you log into any other sites using the same password that you use on Mumsnet, it makes sense to change your password on those sites, too.

We're really sorry for the alarm and inconvenience this might cause, and we realise you're likely to have further questions about what's been happening, so here's a summary of answers to the most obvious questions.

You say the hacker was able to access Mumsnet users' data: was data from my personal account accessed?
We have no way of knowing how many Mumsnetters were affected - so far we have evidence of 11 user accounts being hacked but it's an ongoing investigation. Those users have been informed, and their passwords have been reset. We think it prudent, however, that everyone reset their passwords - which in any case is a sensible thing to do from time to time.

What data could the hacker see?
By using your password and login, he would have been able to see the data on your profile - so that includes your username or email plus your password, your postcode if you've supplied it, your username history and your Mumsnet inbox.

Now that I've changed my password, can you guarantee that my data is safe?
Unfortunately, we can't give you a cast-iron guarantee of this - no site can. By forcing a password reset the hacker won't be able to log in as you; however, if phishing was the cause, the page could be phished again, which is why it's important that you check the URL of the login page when you enter your details, or use your social login. If the URL is anything other than www.mumsnet.com/session/login, don't use it.

Final thoughts
The internet is of course brilliant, but it's not 100% safe and secure. Whenever you share anything on the web, either publicly (such as on a Mumsnet thread) or privately (such as the data you give to a website when signing up), have a think about how happy you'd be for that information to fall into the hands of someone else. Make your passwords as secure as possible and change them every few months. Use different passwords for different accounts. Close redundant accounts that you no longer use.

And if you read nothing else...
I do realise this post is long, so here's a quick summary:

DO reset your Mumsnet password
DO make passwords really strong to reduce the risk of them being guessed
DO check the URL of any login page to reduce risk of phishing
DO verify that is being used on login pages
DO use social login to avoid typing passwords
DON'T give out information to any organisations without verifying they are who they say they are (such as the fake @mumsnetsupport twitter account that had also been started but has now been removed by Twitter)

Please post here or mail us on [email protected] with any questions or thoughts. As you can imagine our inbox is fairly voluminous at the moment but we'll get back to you as quickly as we can.

Thanks very much for reading,

Justine

OP posts:
hashtagwhatever · 19/08/2015 01:32

What's all this BBC bollocks?

Cacan · 19/08/2015 01:32

so is it most likely just a load of hot air then?

HarrietSchulenberg · 19/08/2015 01:34

Interesting, Trionic. Could anyone who downloaded and Worded see if I'm on it, as I log in through either an app or using copy and paste, so no keystrokes.
I did scroll through the first thousand or so but, frankly, gave up as I've got better things to do.

Theresatrexinmybed · 19/08/2015 01:37

How do you search on an iphone?

DuelingFanjo · 19/08/2015 01:37

Harriet, no you are not on there.

CloserToFiftyThanTwenty · 19/08/2015 01:37

Harriet - not on the list

SecretNutellaFix · 19/08/2015 01:38

Harriet is not on the list.

ghostspirit · 19/08/2015 01:38

i dont know how to check :( dont have word

MadHackedOffGnome · 19/08/2015 01:39

Search on an iPhone by putting your username into the search bar at the top of Safari. You'll get a drop down menu with either 'search on google' or 'search on this page'. It tells you immediately if there are no results.

What a pain, eh?

HoneyDragon · 19/08/2015 01:39

Hashtag

A question like that deserves and entire thread of its own Grin

If your referring to DadSec I think it was delusions of grandeur in regards to efforts made here.

Or he's hacked Terry Wogan?

SecretNutellaFix · 19/08/2015 01:39

Ghostspirit, you aren't on there.

wickedlazy · 19/08/2015 01:39

Sorry BBC bollocks was me giving an example of the shite that's on 4chan, where someone was claiming to have a mn'ers bank details. Someone hopefully about as serious as bbc oddball.

Bogeyface · 19/08/2015 01:39

Trionic

I am on there twice as, coincidentally, I had to log in using a different device so my password wasnt stored and I didnt get auto log in. I did spell the password wrong the first time (thanks to fast typing) and it has both of them.

I think I was just unlucky in the timing because I would have checked had I been asked to log in via my PC. I think the phishing theory is correct.

MadHackedOffGnome · 19/08/2015 01:40

Oh - you need to have the dadsec page with the 3000 names etc up first obviously Smile

Bogeyface · 19/08/2015 01:40

Oh and thanks to MrsC for giving me the heads up that I am on there twice, even though I had already changed my password and my IP was totally different from normal as I was on holiday!

ghostspirit · 19/08/2015 01:42

thankyou secret

SurlyCue · 19/08/2015 01:43

Yes lots of repitition and many with different passwords or variations of passwords which suggests people tried a couple of passwords to log in. Obviously because they werent getting logged in and thought it was their mistake with the password so tried again with variations or older ones.

All passwords were voided today those lists are pure shite.

BrumpyGollocks · 19/08/2015 01:43

I think there will be loads of us who use iPhone etc who won't be able to check, I'm also wondering if past usernames might be on there.

Let's just hope Hq let us know ASAP.

HoneyDragon · 19/08/2015 01:43

Oh if they have my bank details do you think they'll clear my overdraft?

TheFormidableMrsC · 19/08/2015 01:43

A pleasure Bogey...Smile

enviousllama · 19/08/2015 01:44

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wickedlazy · 19/08/2015 01:44

I wonder if I know any internet trolls in rl? Odd thought but I know a few people who fit the stereotype. But I suppose anyone could be. Do mn know who the mod helping out was? Or do they just know a mod was helping out, iyswim?

TheFormidableMrsC · 19/08/2015 01:45

SurlyCue, I agree, however, I know that I use(d) the same password for various sites/social media. Have changed them all now. Hopefully others will do the same...

cozietoesie · 19/08/2015 01:46

...I'm also wondering if past usernames might be on there...

I think it's a very specific and pretty short timeframe, Brumpy.

HoneyDragon · 19/08/2015 01:46

You can't de register at the moment it's buggered. Whether by HQ or hackers, I don't know.

Sorry Your stuck with us.