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Site attacks, hackergate and resetting passwords - here's what we know, what we're doing about it and what we think you should do. PLEASE READ!

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JustineMumsnet · 18/08/2015 15:37

On the night of Tuesday 11 August, Mumsnet came under attack from what's known as a denial of service (DDoS) attack. Our servers were bombarded with requests, which required our internet service provider to massively increase server capacity to cope. We were able to restore the site at 10am on Wednesday 12 August. Meanwhile a Twitter account, @DadSecurity, claimed responsibility, saying in various tweets "Now is the start of something wonderful", "RIP Mumsnet", "Nothing will be normal anymore" and "Our DDoS attacks are keeping you offline".

To add to the 'fun', it seems @DadSecurity also resorted to Swatting attacks. Swatting is a criminal practice in which someone makes an emergency call to the police claiming that a crime is taking place at the house of the intended victim, in order to get them to send a swat team to the address.

An armed response team turned up at my house last week in the middle of the night, after reports of a gunman prowling around. A Mumsnet user who engaged with @DadSecurity on Twitter was warned to "prepare to be swatted by the best" in a tweet that included a picture of a swat team, after which police arrived at her house late at night following a report of gunshots. Needless to say, she and her young family were pretty shaken up. It's worth saying that we don't believe these addresses were gained directly from any Mumsnet hack, as we don't collect addresses. The police are investigating both instances.

@DadSecurity also claimed that he had access to Mumsnet user data. Later on 12 August, it became apparent that someone/ones had hacked into some of Mumsnet's administrative functions, at which point they were able to redirect our homepage to the @DadSecurity Twitter profile page, as well as to edit posts from two users' account and an MNHQ account on our forums.

Someone claiming to be the hacker also posted on the thread on which users were discussing the site outage. We immediately locked down all access to our admin functions and reported the attack to the police. We were confident that users' passwords had not been accessed, because MNHQ doesn't hold them as plain text; they're all encrypted, so that no one - not even us - can see them.

However, over the weekend, a user reported that posts had been made under her name which weren't by her, and we spotted two other cases where this had happened. This clearly suggested that the hacker had nonetheless been able to get hold of some users' passwords.

Our best guess at this stage (and it is just a best guess) is that this has been done via a form of phishing, in which the hacker creates a fake Mumsnet login page to which users are directed when clicking on our login button. The page would have had a different url but otherwise would look just like the usual page. The hacker would have been able to see passwords in plain text when they were typed in.

We take great care to protect the information you give us and not to ask for or store any more information than we need to run the site, but though we can't know how many accounts have been affected, there have been enough breaches for us to ask all Mumsnet users to change their passwords. As a result, you'll no longer be able to log in to Mumsnet with your current password, and will need to create a new one, here.

This will mean that any passwords the hacker has been able to harvest up to this point will be useless. We are looking into what we can do to strengthen our defences against phishing, but in the meantime we need to ask you to be vigilant, and to check the URL of the login page for the foreseeable future. The correct URL is www.mumsnet.com/session/login and it reads rather than at the beginning. We will place a warning on the login page reminding you to do this.

Alternatively use the social login option (ie Facebook/Google) as then you won't be required to enter a password. And if you log into any other sites using the same password that you use on Mumsnet, it makes sense to change your password on those sites, too.

We're really sorry for the alarm and inconvenience this might cause, and we realise you're likely to have further questions about what's been happening, so here's a summary of answers to the most obvious questions.

You say the hacker was able to access Mumsnet users' data: was data from my personal account accessed?
We have no way of knowing how many Mumsnetters were affected - so far we have evidence of 11 user accounts being hacked but it's an ongoing investigation. Those users have been informed, and their passwords have been reset. We think it prudent, however, that everyone reset their passwords - which in any case is a sensible thing to do from time to time.

What data could the hacker see?
By using your password and login, he would have been able to see the data on your profile - so that includes your username or email plus your password, your postcode if you've supplied it, your username history and your Mumsnet inbox.

Now that I've changed my password, can you guarantee that my data is safe?
Unfortunately, we can't give you a cast-iron guarantee of this - no site can. By forcing a password reset the hacker won't be able to log in as you; however, if phishing was the cause, the page could be phished again, which is why it's important that you check the URL of the login page when you enter your details, or use your social login. If the URL is anything other than www.mumsnet.com/session/login, don't use it.

Final thoughts
The internet is of course brilliant, but it's not 100% safe and secure. Whenever you share anything on the web, either publicly (such as on a Mumsnet thread) or privately (such as the data you give to a website when signing up), have a think about how happy you'd be for that information to fall into the hands of someone else. Make your passwords as secure as possible and change them every few months. Use different passwords for different accounts. Close redundant accounts that you no longer use.

And if you read nothing else...
I do realise this post is long, so here's a quick summary:

DO reset your Mumsnet password
DO make passwords really strong to reduce the risk of them being guessed
DO check the URL of any login page to reduce risk of phishing
DO verify that is being used on login pages
DO use social login to avoid typing passwords
DON'T give out information to any organisations without verifying they are who they say they are (such as the fake @mumsnetsupport twitter account that had also been started but has now been removed by Twitter)

Please post here or mail us on [email protected] with any questions or thoughts. As you can imagine our inbox is fairly voluminous at the moment but we'll get back to you as quickly as we can.

Thanks very much for reading,

Justine

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MiddleAgedandConfused · 18/08/2015 16:33

ItsAllGoingToBeFine - thanks but I have looked in settings to see if I can switch it off but can't find anywhere. Unticking the "remember me" button does not work.

Awholelottanosy · 18/08/2015 16:33

That explains why I am unable to log in on my kindle! Thanks for the update and...bloody hell!!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/08/2015 16:34

MiddleAgedandConfused Which browser are you using?

JustineMumsnet · 18/08/2015 16:34

@SecretSquirrels

Blimey Justine Swat at the door and all that! That is very nasty. Are you allowed to tell us whether they have got the perpetrator?

Not as far as I'm aware as yet.

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TheBossness · 18/08/2015 16:35

Bloody hell that must have been scary. I hope the lowlifes who did this receive a long jail sentence.

LurkingHusband · 18/08/2015 16:37

Can MNHQ assure MNetters that name changes would not have been accessible to anyone with the level of access so far displayed ?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/08/2015 16:37

I hope the lowlifes who did this receive a long jail sentence.

More likely to be grounded by their Mum....

G1veMeStrength · 18/08/2015 16:38

Bloody hell! How deranged does someone have to be to call the armed police out?! If that was my child they'd be grounded for life Angry

G1veMeStrength · 18/08/2015 16:38

X posts Grin

SusanMichelson · 18/08/2015 16:39

Thank you for the info and update. I have three questions when you have a mo:

  1. The reddaisy situation - do you have any idea how that has happened? (two different people posting under the same name, apparently) and is it linked?
  1. Is it possible that passwords were not accessed and all the odd things were a result of his using Admin functions to edit text, eg, making a new account and then editing the username on it to look like someone else?
  1. Do you know how he accessed the address of the user whose home he targetted? There were a few people interacting with him on twitter so they may be concerned.

Thank you.

SkullyCat · 18/08/2015 16:40

I bet ASorcererIsWizardSquared feels somewhat "I told you so" now.

G1veMeStrength · 18/08/2015 16:40

Justine and other MNer - hope you are alright. And - are you allowed to tell us what kind of biscuits the police liked best?

Fiderer · 18/08/2015 16:41

I changed my password (having had the same one for years) after the Heartbleed bug and now I can't remember it. I only use it for MN and now I can't change to a new one.

Appreciate you must be swamped (and shaken) can I request a new one via Contact Us?

I can't be the only one Blush

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 18/08/2015 16:42

Crikey, Justine, I really hope they catch the bastard! I mean the hacking and password phishing is bad enough, but the SWAT thing is horrible! Shock

I'm assuming that it is a full-on criminal activity (is it just wasting police time? Or is it intimidation etc. as well?) and that whoever it was gets sent dahhhn for a long time! Evil git.

Off to change password now, thanks.

And thank you for an infinitely better response to this situation than previously.

Sparklingbrook · 18/08/2015 16:42

Do we know why the hacker chose MN in particular?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/08/2015 16:43

Fiderer Go here: www.mumsnet.com/password-reset/reset You don't need old password, just the email address you registered with.

ouryve · 18/08/2015 16:44

Oh Joy.

As if I wasn't having a shitty enough day (at least parcelfarce were kind enough to leave a whole case of wine under the hedge, in the pouring rain, for me.)

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 18/08/2015 16:44

Wow, that's awful! I have only recently heard about swatting on facebook where it was reported that a teenager got a very long sentence in the US due to the intrusion it causes and also the potential to take emergency staff away from a real distaste rand put lives at risk.

CoogerAndDark · 18/08/2015 16:46

Crikey. False name, false email the way to go, really.

YeOldeTrout · 18/08/2015 16:46

Crikey, someone with same name has been banned loads of places online. Nafftastic.

SusanMichelson · 18/08/2015 16:46

Was the wine alright Ouryve? Shock

We use Arseholeforce here, when they get it wrong...

SkullyCat · 18/08/2015 16:46

Can i just suggest something?

Its easy enough to get a free email address these days, it would probably be a good idea with how vulnerable this site is, to make sure that the email/pw you use for MN is entirely unique.

my email address i use for here is unique, so is the pw! If anyone phished me, they wouldn't get into anything else of mine!

DownAtFraggleRock · 18/08/2015 16:46

Shock holy shit.

Do these people really have nothing better to do??

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/08/2015 16:47

It's the summer holidays...

JustineMumsnet · 18/08/2015 16:47

@Sparklingbrook

Do we know why the hacker chose MN in particular?

Well not really - I have in my head that I saw something from him about MN not being a support site for women but a site for men hating, or something like that - but I was on hols and a bit distracted and now can't find any evidence of it and no one else can remember it, so maybe I dreamt that. On the thread he hacked he claimed it was for entertainment purposes...

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