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hide poster button, impersonally

266 replies

moresnow · 15/06/2015 12:43

RebeccaMumsnet said:

Please do start another thread about the hide poster option, but avoid making it personal.

I would like to be able to hide goady / drum-banging / just plain boring posters. I would not at all mind being hidden by everyone else.

Anyone else have comments they've not made yet on this one?

OP posts:
Stratter5 · 15/06/2015 17:53

I'd like one, I think it's an excellent idea. I don't want a limit though, as you'd run out pretty quickly if someone name changes constantly, and I don't think it would be right to link names.

It's not bullying. I am pissed to the limit of all the bullying bleating.

wannaBe · 15/06/2015 17:53

People are saying that if 49 people hid the troll then mn hq would be obliged to deal with it. But the thing is that 49 people wouldn't hide the troll/goady poster, one or two would, the other 47/48 would stay for a bunfight.

Let's be honest, the number of goady threads that exist on mn and run into hundreds and hundreds of posts aren't only because of the goady person who starts/responds on them, they're also because of the number of people who stick around to continue to fight with the goady poster. People already have the option to walk away and not respond to threads. But some people are clearly incapable of doing that, a hide poster function wouldn't change that.

RainbowFlutterby · 15/06/2015 17:53

And you are guessing too Whisk!

I have my doubts to be honest - I did explain on the other thread that there is one poster I would love to hide but that poster is "MN Royalty" and I would probably be lynched if I did!

SoupDragon · 15/06/2015 17:55

Unless you're personally being asked to rewrite the site I really don't see why you're that bothered.

Because I'm not the sort of person who doesn't give a damn about creating unnecessary extra work for someone.

Whiskwarrior · 15/06/2015 17:56

Wow. Some people are really invested in preventing others from having something that wouldn't personally affect them, aren't they?

SoupDragon · 15/06/2015 17:57

Why do people think MNHQ would be able to see at a glance that X people have hidden Poster A? Wouldn't the hiding be tied to the accounts of the people doing the hiding rather than that of the person being hidden.

SoupDragon · 15/06/2015 17:58

And some people are very rude about those who have a different opinion.

Whiskwarrior · 15/06/2015 17:58

Oh, here we go with Mumsnet Royalty. When in doubt, have a snip at regulars.

Can you not just skip past their posts?

SoupDragon · 15/06/2015 17:58

I'm out of this discussion.

It's pointless.

wannaBe · 15/06/2015 17:59

but it does personally affect everyone. Because if you have the ability to hide posters then chances are you will be hidden.

So if you are prepared to say that x/y is a goady derailer with unpleasant views then you have to be prepared to concede that others will have the same view of you and take the same stance you do when you hide them.

Whiskwarrior · 15/06/2015 17:59

Really rude? Honestly? You think that's rude?

Good grief.

Whiskwarrior · 15/06/2015 18:01

But I don't care if someone hides me! I wouldn't know, would I?

BareGorillas · 15/06/2015 18:01

The royalty thing

There's a world of difference between a regular poster and a regular twat btw.

LeChien · 15/06/2015 18:01

"We are told to ignore trolls."

We're told to report them.
Maybe MN should delete the goady fuckers who tread carefully enough to avoid deletion, when they have a long history of doing this.

Troll threads are often very fast moving and busy, so there's obviously something about them that pushes people's buttons. Perhaps there could be a "this thread is too speedy to be real" alarm in MNHQ so they can check it out quicker than they normally would.

PattiODoors · 15/06/2015 18:05

Ps Mary you ain't a bitch so there. Ner.

And wrt folk posting just on this side of guidelines yes I would like to know HQ stance on that.

pps have just grated thumb knuckle on cheese grater and it fkin hurts

Thurlow · 15/06/2015 18:06

My main concern on how this would work in practice is if hiding is related just to a name then anyone who is deliberately goady could just nc every week or two and get around it. If there was a limit to the number of people you could hide then this would quickly undermine the whole thing and you'd still be seeing the same poster.

If it was related to a unique ID then it's pretty much saying "I don't think that you will ever, on any topic, in any.circumstance, have an opinion I am prepared to hear."

I don't think that people are getting invested in denying others something they want. I think people are saying they don't feel overall it will be a positive personality change for MN.

wannaBe · 15/06/2015 18:07

The thing is that one person's definition of goady fucker differs from another. Someone starting a thread on an emotive topic but not necessarily being on the accepted mn side of the discussion might, by some, be considered to be a goady fucker, for instance. When actually, they just have a differing viewpoint which many don't agree with, or which, because of the mass disagreement, many feel not permitted to agree with (and yes, this happens too IMO).

MrsHathaway · 15/06/2015 18:08

We had a Hide facility on a website I used to use. None of the problems posited here were evident there - it was rarely if ever obvious that A had hidden B because the threads moved too fast and it would be easy to miss even a direct question anyway.

I rarely hid anyone anyway, and particularly not the wankers.

I imagine it would be a huge amount of work to create Hide from scratch. Fwiw the other sites don't tend to have Hide Topic or Hide Thread which are vastly useful. They are also usually not bespoke sites so don't have to write all their own code.

CMon · 15/06/2015 18:09

I'm all for a Hide Poster Option. I would love one and it would make me happy.

I think it would also help if poster were only allowed to use one NN per thread.

You would have to have it tied to a NN rather than a poster otherwise it would be simple to work out posters identities.

I have a poster who I would like to hide, she name changes but her posts are very identifiable. I'd have to re-hide her whenever she name changes but I would still love the option to do it.

Another 'softer' option would be to only allow a hide poster option to work on a per thread basis.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/06/2015 18:09

I would like a "Hide Poster" option.

I think the posts should still appear in the thread but highlighted and with no text, so that you can see you are missing some posts. As long as the hider can visually see posts that have been hidden it shouldn't disrupt the flow too much. I can't quite decide if these blank posts should have the posters name removed or not.

I don't think accidental outing of name changes would be an issue either. At the moment, if you choose to highlight the OPs posts and they name change in the thread, the posts in the new name are not highlighted, so obviously it is possible to discriminate on name alone (not just userID)

Most of the objections here are personal objections as to why people personally don't like the idea - there are very few objections based on negatively impacting the site as a whole. If people personally object to the function they don't have to use it.

Could also help MNHQ, they could have something that flags up users that have been blocked by many people, could help them identify the incredibly goady but just on the right side of the rules people.

If tech is up to it Grin it'd be good to have

A page where we can see who we have hidden and unhide them.
An option to hide all posts from a particular user.
An option to hide a poster within a certain topic only
An option to hide a poster within a certain thread only.

MrsHathaway · 15/06/2015 18:13

That said, the nc issue is real. It would have to be by username not user ID but that would be another layer of code I assume.

"Hide this user's posts on this thread" is something I can get behind unequivocally - quite happy for people's socks to be hidden on the same thread. I'd quite like "highlight this user's posts on this thread" too because often someone clever and kind comes on to advise or support and it would mean you could skim for that poster past the kind but insubstantial hand holding.

Whiskwarrior · 15/06/2015 18:16

I'd now quite like a 'moon on a stick' button!

I don't know what it would do, mind.

exLtEveDallasNoBollocks · 15/06/2015 18:17

MrsHathaway, if you use the Greasemonkey script you can do that Smile. As well as hiding a poster you can favourite a poster and they show up on your screen highlighted (in yellow I think, I haven't used it myself)

MrsHathaway · 15/06/2015 18:18

I suggested ages ago that we should have a dialog or similar saying "you are posting as NameOne. You have already posted on this thread as NameTwo. Are you sure?"

Because oh the number of times I've cocked up my nc on a sensitive thread or one about sex and have had to grovel to MNHQ to have it corrected Blush

It would also slow down socks. Perhaps it should be "nope, sorry, you've posted as NameTwo on this thread so you can't now post as NameOne".

PeaceOfWildThings · 15/06/2015 18:19

I would like to havevthe option to hide posters, and unhide them. I am.not likely to use it often, but there are times when I've had to not come to MN because of goady fuckers and people who are too liberal and insistent with their (harmfully wrong) advice, ignorance and nosiness.