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Isn't about time MNHQ started deleting posts that attack people's spelling and grammar?

508 replies

cuntycowfacemonkey · 28/05/2015 22:06

(In advance I will say any of my posts are likely to have spelling and grammar mistakes)

It's such a shitty thing to do and often it is directed at poster who then feel they have to explain themselves and disclose they have dyslexia. I don't understand why MN tolerate people with potential disabilities being mocked in this way?

Why can it not be regarded as a personal attack and such comments deleted. Very often the arses that post comments about another posters spelling bring nothing else to the thread and usually it derails the thread and the OP's original issue gets lost in the ensuing bunfight.

OP posts:
crispandfruity · 29/05/2015 17:34

You messin' wit me?

SenecaFalls · 29/05/2015 17:39

There's quite a bit of woeful ignorance among the SPAG police about how the "would of" mistake comes about in speech. I often envision these folks walking around carefully and separately enunciating each word they say in what they perceive to be an accent devoid of regional identity.

WanderingAboutRandomly · 29/05/2015 17:44

I don't understand why people need to defend their poor English. English is my first language and I'm not dyslexic. I am simply bad at English. It's not that I don't care or that I'm lazy it's just something I find difficult. I also can't draw or sing.

I'd love to know how talented some of the grammar pedants are in other areas of their lives. Some of them seem to be struggle with manners.

Tequilashotfor1 · 29/05/2015 18:00

I was crap at spelling but brilliant at reading at school. Can't sit still to do an office job, but know I'm the absolute dogs bollocks at my job - a sports coach. I also teach new teachers. I win awards for it.

Who cares if your spelling and grammar are off? Life's to friggin short Wine

Bakeoffcake · 29/05/2015 18:08

I know what you mean Seneca, I always imagine they are Hyacinth Bucket types.

My kids are both at uni Wandering. Russell group ones LOL!xxxx

ghostspirit · 29/05/2015 18:14

lol bakeoffcake i just checked the thread. yes the comment was deleted. and then my responce is still there. look like a nut nut ranting hahaha Blush

holmessweetholmes · 29/05/2015 18:25

Good point, usualsuspect333. Those of you who think it is perfectly ok and not rude to point out people's grammatical errors on MN, do you also do so in rl conversations? If not, why not?

Bakeoffcake · 29/05/2015 18:28

Don't be embarrassed ghost. She needed tellingGrin

ghostspirit · 29/05/2015 18:33

i would be caught out there to holmessweet when i say, v/th/f they all sound the same. my kids keep saying mum say very to take the piss. even the 4 year olds from next door have noticed it Blush

namechange0dq8 · 29/05/2015 18:43

She also corrects people on 'who' and 'whom'.

Correctly? The vast majority of people who use "whom" do it at random, as though it's a posh way to say "who".

Sallyingforth · 29/05/2015 18:46

How arrogant of you to think it's your job to pull up adults on their spelling

No more arrogant than thinking it's your job to decide which posts should be deleted by MNHQ.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 29/05/2015 18:52

name - unfortunately, no, she does it correctly. I don't think I've ever caught her out in a grammar slip.

It was incredibly embarrassing as a child, believe me.

MollyAir · 29/05/2015 18:58

Ghostspirit, that's incredibly interesting, that v/th/f all sound the same to you - is that a common feature of dyslexia, please? Dd's BFF is dyslexic.

senrensareta · 29/05/2015 18:59

I think BIWI had it right early on in this thread, it is not snobbish to appreciate good language. I have changed my views on some things and learned a lot from MN and would like to think that others may learn too although expressing it well comes down to kindness and respect.
For example: In real life, if I mispronounced something, I would appreciate someone saying tactfully "by the way, did you know this is usually pronounced..." whereas I'm fairly sure I would be offended by "Oy thicko, it's..." and while online it is hard to get kindness across I do think standards should matter.

It is also worth pointing out that, just as there are some obnoxious pedants, there are also some posters who are just as obnoxious in their anti-pedant views. I remember, years back, seeing a post from a woman asking advice as she just could not get a job; the poster who suggested she may want to get applications checked to avoid spelling errors as there were some in her posts got savaged despite the fact it was reasonable advice, delivered politely

I'm amazed that people get so steamed up about pedantry when snobbery like the napkin/serviette, toilet/loo and "I'd be appalled if my child said pardon instead of what" stuff goes on all the time on here.

MollyAir · 29/05/2015 18:59

Does that make learning foreign languages particularly difficult?

SenecaFalls · 29/05/2015 19:03

I think you will find consistency among anti-pedantry and anti-snobbery posters. Let me just check my spreadsheet.

MollyAir · 29/05/2015 19:05

Don't forget to look in your cuntybox.

ghostspirit · 29/05/2015 19:07

molly i have no idea. i never knew i was was saying them wrong till my kids told me...

JeanneDeMontbaston · 29/05/2015 19:10

But, senre, 'good language' and 'perfect SPAG' are different things, and they are being conflated.

I realize BIWI didn't mean to be upsetting and I did see she was quite upset when quoted her talking about the 'lowest common denominator' and she wanted to be very clear she hadn't intended that to describe anyone. But, she and other are, I think, tending to assume that accurate SPAG are good signs of people who appreciate good language, and interesting debates, and so on.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 29/05/2015 19:11

molly, some academics think dyslexia might be told do with problems in distinguishing between sounds. But it could also be to do with accent or early exposure.

MollyAir · 29/05/2015 19:17

Thanks, that would indeed make foreign language acquisition additionally challenging, I would have thought. Schools ought really to know about that.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 29/05/2015 19:20

I think it is known about? Certainly I have teacher friends who know.

Incidence of dyslexia (or diagnosed dyslexia, anyway) differs in different languages, though, so that complicates things - a language where spelling is quite phonetic can be quite nice for dyslexic learners.

MollyAir · 29/05/2015 19:41

Hence, perhaps, German is easier than French?

JeanneDeMontbaston · 29/05/2015 19:42

Might be - the one I know about is Italian.

SenecaFalls · 29/05/2015 19:56

Spanish is another one.