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After the SN-not-in-Active-Convos but only in own link thing...

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hub2dee · 09/11/2006 22:39

I never see any, because old habits die hard, and I keep clicking 'Active Conversations - All Topics'.

And I think that's a real shame.

Is that just me being dense and lazy ? It's obviously not hard to click the other thing...

I just wish it was integrated into the normal 'view' you get. I don't want to not be able to see it.

Am I alone ?

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dinosaur · 10/11/2006 17:24

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tigermoth · 10/11/2006 17:25

I have just checked the mumsnet talk page.

How about a slightly amended design? Have a message about the special needs topic and link to it directly beside the 'Mumsnet Talk' heading where there is some free space. It would definitely stand out a lot more so new posters should spot it.

BTW do SN board topics make discussions of the day on the home page? would it be feasible if at least one SN discussion was always included on the home page, so that would be another pointer to the SN section? Just an idea.

I have no views either way about a separate SN topic as long as it's open to all to read and to contribute on as and when (not starting that conversation again though, so don't worry, blu!).

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dinosaur · 10/11/2006 17:25

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Socci · 10/11/2006 17:26

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Jimjams2 · 10/11/2006 17:31

Must say Fio it did make me feel better to think that it's unusual to not be able to integrate. My lucky baby eh.

PMSL @ the Dr- will you stop woman!
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HRHQueenOfQuotes · 10/11/2006 17:33

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Jimjams2 · 10/11/2006 17:34

agree dino. When I started posting on SN boards (here and on UK parents), ds1 was thought to have "mild" SN/not quite enough for a dx but differences (HOWLS with laughter), and I had no problem posting on regular boards, SN sections and even private password protected boards.

Anwyay I frequently read B and D specifically looking for almost SN, but not quite threads. As do may other SN posters I suspect (judging how many I meet on those threads).

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HRHQueenOfQuotes · 10/11/2006 17:35

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Kittypickle · 10/11/2006 17:36

My DD has what fairly "mild" SN in the scheme of things (and I hate using that word). I don't feel in the slightest bit excluded from the SN board. I think that the mothers of children whose problems are more severe understand completely that even if the problems a child is experiencing are pretty mild (it's that word again!) in the scheme of things, any diagnosis comes with a whole load of uncertainty and worry.

I personally don't think that For Sale should come up on the active conversations at all and that you should have to go and look at that specific section, but that is a whole other issue and not a can of worms that needs opening at the moment.

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FioFio · 10/11/2006 17:36

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Jimjams2 · 10/11/2006 17:37

Well I agree QoQ if people are going to be that insensitive!


You won't find anything on google yet Fiomeister- but try next week (actually you won't have to as I am going to force you to lok when its up). PMSL @ estate.

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wannaBe1974 · 10/11/2006 17:37

I?ve never felt unwelcome on the sn board, and I don?t click on the with sn link in active convos I go specivically to the topic. Active convos moves so quickly, and there are so few posts to sn these days that these topics generally won?t be picked up anyway.

Hrh it?s true that not all children with sn are unable to integrate due to their disability, but all children with sn are treated differently at some point in their lives, regardless of how severe their disability is. It?s just how society works ? we have this compulsion to stare/ask awkward questions/have an opinion on someone who is different. I don?t consider myself disabled as such, I just can?t see, and yet society has decided that I?m different and will be treated as such. As a child I was stared at, excluded from other childrens? games, pitied (that went down well ? not ), and as an adult I have been discriminated against in terms of employment, people come up to me in the street and ask how I ever cope with having a child ? etc. I am thick-skinned and it doesn?t bother me, but I can imagine that it might have bothered my parents, and it must bother other parents whose children have mild sn and whose children are treated differently, and for those parents it must be good to go somewhere where others understand and can empathise (because you can only empathise once you?ve really been there) with what they?re going through. And no, I guess not all children ?with sn? are the same as jimjams? ds, but you know what, not all children are the same as yours either, because every child is different. SN doesn?t have to define who you are, it?s a part of who you are. jimjams has a ds, he?s 7, and unfortunately he?s not able to do things all other children do because he has severe autism. but so what, he is a child first and autistic second, but the rest of the world doesn?t seem to see it that way so jimjams (and every other parent with an sn child) should be able to go somewhere where everyone else has been there and understands.

I also don?t quite get this concept that people don?t feel welcome on sn board or that they can contribute anything. I didn?t breast feed, and thus I don?t have anything to contribute to the breastfeeding topic, but that doesn?t mean I feel like I?m being excluded, similarly I don?t go camping, do knitting, and so the list goes on.

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HRHQueenOfQuotes · 10/11/2006 17:39

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Jimjams2 · 10/11/2006 17:39

Agree kitty- also whilst a mother of a "severe" child I have plenty of friends with children with more "mild" problems- and see the porblems they have with getting the non-expert to even realise there's a problem, and these people therefore behave completely inappropriately and cause MAJOR problems to the families concerned. Posted something to that effect on SN today.

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FioFio · 10/11/2006 17:39

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emmalou78 · 10/11/2006 17:40

In reply to the original post, how hard is it to click a different link?

I am a user of the SN board, I read but rarely post anymore, after incidents ealier this year which upset me a great deal and almost lost us one of, in my opinion, most valuble posters, there were trolls, uneccessary upsets becuase people didn't realise it was a special needs post etc.

I personally prefer that we're 'segregated' there are somethings you can only understand if you have experienced them, I would never shun anyone for posting on there or reading to gain knowledge and insight, and I hope that people with a genuine interest continue to do so.

I can't imagine any of the users of the special needs boards making anyone feel unwelcome without reason, and wonder if perhaps its misperception on readers parts - mis read sarcasm? I know ther are the smily faces and acroymys you can use to get your meaning across, but not everyone likes using them.

Can we put this issue to bed now? and get back to mumsnet being a funa nd supportive place instead of complainng about a new set up?

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Jimjams2 · 10/11/2006 17:40

Nice QoQ, nice.

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HRHQueenOfQuotes · 10/11/2006 17:40

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Blandmum · 10/11/2006 17:41

I honestly do see how SN is separate just because you have to move your mouse to a different postion to click on it!

It isn't not in active convos, it is just accessed via a different button!

It isn't password protected. No-one on the SN section demands to know what sn your child has!

Goodness, this all seems to be a great big fuss about moving your mouse a few inches to the right

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Jimjams2 · 10/11/2006 17:41

hear hear emma!

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FioFio · 10/11/2006 17:41

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Jimjams2 · 10/11/2006 17:42

I wasn't trying to be bitchy Q of Q I did actually genuinely find your comment insensitive. I wasn't just saying it.

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HRHQueenOfQuotes · 10/11/2006 17:43

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