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Deleted thread about the Labour Party telephone canvasser

198 replies

Crossfitmyarse · 04/04/2015 08:50

Yes, this is a TAAT, so do your worst.

'We don't usually delete whole threads but we do so when it is to protect a poster's privacy.'

Aah, poor wee poster got flamed bang to rights on an AIBU so you delete the whole thread? BASED ON WHAT? Shock

Seriously MNHQ? SERIOUSLY? Hmm Which one of you is she related to? I can't physically roll my eyes back in my head far enough to express my cynicism and weariness over this.

What is going on around here these days? Who/what are you scared of, exactly?

OP posts:
Koalafications · 04/04/2015 11:51

Maybe she was identifiable because the Labour Party has so few members there days, and only a handful in the 'cold calling' team?

Then why start the thread in the first place?! Easter Confused

bruffin · 04/04/2015 11:57

It wasnt horrible other than the fact that the op didnt acknowledge that cold calling is rude and invasive and she had no right to take the moral highground.

ThatIsNachoCheese · 04/04/2015 12:14

I expect that when someone made the link between her username and twitter that it made her realise she had been slightly foolish and she therefore asked for the thread to be deleted as it dawned on her how identifiable she was.

PaschalFancy · 04/04/2015 12:24

Didn't seem very different to any other thread where OP asks AIBU, whole of MN says YABU, and OP says "No I'm not and I'm going to carry on doing it."

Perhaps given extra frisson by the fact that OP doing was something that actually harms some people.

Obviously the phrase "fuck off" featured a lot as it was the subject of the OP's discussion.

Sparklingbrook · 04/04/2015 12:26

From what I can remember the OP was not particularly involved in their own thread.

ragged · 04/04/2015 12:27

from what I remember it was a lot of people saying with fury that they had every right to be as rude as they liked. The group-think fury was uncalled for.

Koalafications · 04/04/2015 12:28

I'm Easter Hmm that she would have posted under the same name as one of her social media accounts and was then 'shocked' that she could be identifiable.

I'm not sure that someone with such a poor grasp of 2015 should be questioning other people on their voting choices.

PaschalFancy · 04/04/2015 12:33

What, everyone's allowed to be individually furious at time cold-caller causes [list of bad things], but must never discuss it with other people who have also been furious?

I really don't think it was the pack stoking-up I have sometimes seen on MN: it was a tapping into a pre-existing fury.

MNHQ
DawnMumsnet · 04/04/2015 13:43

Afternoon all,

We've only just spotted this thread (or should we say TAAT?)

We ended up deleting the original thread because somebody had posted a link to the OP's Twitter account, and she was subsequently being hounded over there too. So it was a bit late in the day to simply remove that post - the damage had already been done.

We'd also received many reports about the vitriolic posts on the thread. While a lot of you clearly thought she deserved it, many others were outraged that we were leaving post after post telling the OP to fuck off to stand.

In the end we felt it best all round to delete the thread. This hardly needs to be said, but we would of course have done the same regardless of the political party concerned.

ToadsJustFellFromTheSky · 04/04/2015 22:29

Couldn't you just have deleted that one post rather than the whole thread?

MNHQ
IonaMumsnet · 05/04/2015 17:06

Hi Toads. Sounds like it was the reams of posts telling the OP to fuck off, added to the Twitter link that did for the thread in its entirety. Sometimes there are just so many posts to delete it seems pointless for a thread to remain.

Sallystyle · 06/04/2015 19:43

Who told her to fuck off?

I must have missed that. All I read was people stating that it is ok to tell a cold caller to fuck off.

No one told the OP to go and fuck off did they?

The whole debate was about whether it is ok to tell a cold caller to fuck off. A lot of people thought it was.

Koalafications · 06/04/2015 19:51

I don't think she was told to fuck off.

I'm sure people said that if she called them, they would tell her to fuck off. Which is different.

bruffin · 06/04/2015 20:03

agree with Koala and U2 although i didnt see later posts.

limitedperiodonly · 06/04/2015 21:15

Why is okay to tell anyone to fuck off?

'I'm sorry but I'm busy' works for me.

ToadsJustFellFromTheSky · 06/04/2015 21:21

Well I don't remember anyone telling the OP to fuck off, unless I missed it Confused.

Sallystyle · 06/04/2015 22:42

I think we all missed it Toads

OP- AIBU to think it is not ok to tell cold callers to fuck off?

replies- Well, if cold callers are impolite enough to call asking who we are going to vote for then I think it is ok to say fuck off.

Vs

OP- AIBU to think it is not ok to tell cold callers to fuck off?

replies- YABU. Go and fuck off.

Massive difference.

Arsenic · 07/04/2015 04:37

Maybe MNHQ took the view that pages of people saying 'Hell yes, I'd tell you to fuck off' & 'YABU to ask us not to tell you to Fuck Off', wasn't much nicer than pages of 'Fuck off OP'?

It wasn't a very edifying thread.

limited has a point.

UAprilFool · 07/04/2015 09:20

I'm glad I found this thread. I was a bit Confused that the original thread had been deleted but it sounds like it was the right thing to do. Linking to a Twitter account was a very unkind thing to do.

It was a shame as I had posted some really long informative posts about TPS with links. I'm very anti cold calling.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 07/04/2015 09:28

It was useful April...I made notes for my Mum. Maybe post a seperate thread with the info?

bruffin · 07/04/2015 09:47

I never use the F word and have never told anyone to F off in my life, but cant bear cold callers and with the tps because of this and will put the phone down immediately and if they persist on calling I will give them a piece of mind. Like others said on that thread old people like my MIL or DM would have been upset by a phone call from that OP about their voting preferences.

However MN is being a bit hypocritical about this, they like to encourage "grown up conversation" and the use of language like that and have seen far worse on here, so all they needed to do was delete the linking thread.

Arsenic · 07/04/2015 10:12

It was a lot of 'grown up conversation' directed at one poster, even if it was hypothetical.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 07/04/2015 10:34

I agree with Arsenic, although quite how 4 pages of people going 'yeah, I'd tell you to fuck off as well' could be construed as adult.....

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 07/04/2015 10:40

I missed the thread. However I volunteer my free time to support Labour to win elections and have for many years. I put leaflets through letter boxes, canvass at doors and by phone. I have never been told to fuck off though have had a few doors shut in my face. If anyone did, I would think it was rude and uncalled for, but I would go on doing it, because I believe Labour is the best chance we have for saving the NHS, stopping the ruin of public services and protecting the poor and vulnerable. Don't like it? Hang up.

bruffin · 07/04/2015 10:42

That one person did not once acknowledge that she was being unreasonable for cold calling or apologise that she could be upsetting someone, or that her cold calling was intrusive.

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