mn hq, can we have an explanation - jess - and maybe re other trolls in future?

[wannaBe]

I am aware that you can't divulge the means by which you determine whether or not a poster is genuine, predominantly because if you make that common knowledge then posters will know how to avoid being detected in the future.

but jess (long ongoing eleven weeks abortion threads) threads have now been deleted for being a troll, and I was wondering if, given it's the site users who usually report these things, we could perhaps have a bit more by way of explanation?

e.g. when sassysusan was banned, mn hq confirmed that she had previously posted as washwithcare, and users were able to identify.

There has been some speculation that jess was dizzymare, and I wondered whether this was the case?

Also, these threads have been ongoing for over a month now. How is it that it takes quite this long to determine that someone isn't actually all they seem?

I agree with the poster who said that the explanation given for the deletion seems a little wonky. She goes on one forum, talks it over, makes a difficult decision. Has a wobble, decides to try another forum. OK, she didn't say that she'd had online discussions about it before, but that doesn't mean that it's a lie, that she's not that person, in distress.
Others have said she's posted online with different timescales re. the pregnancy, but it seems that if this is true, it wasn't the reason for the ban.

@Tmesis

So "Oh FFS get a grip or head off to another website if you don't like this one." would have been OK?

Well, tbh, "get a grip" could be read as a personal attack, too - espesh in combination with the rest of the post.

May I respectfully suggest "If you don't like it here, maybe you should post on another site?"

@StarlightDicKenzie

It's usually when you have been following a thread for a bit and then suddenly find yourself going 'oh god, NOW WHAT?' with impatience or where you see a juicy thread title designed to make maximum impact imo.

And that's when you Report, yes, Starlight?

Not to defend someone who clearly hurt so many people, but surely, since all her threads/posts here and on other forums were about one topic, there is a large chance that she was in this situation at some point in her life and hasn't "got over it" yet. Obviously, if that is the case, she didn't go about dealing with it in the right way, but it seems slightly harsh to write her off as sad, heartless and living out her life through the internet.

I do feel for anyone that became emotionally involved with her "story", though.

I do think a good "fuck off" delivered with aplomb should still be allowed though

And I don't like that it's not anymore

I can see how someone crashing in on a bereavement thread could be upsetting. I dont even read those threads. I have no experience or advice to offer and I think even reading posts like that when you cant offer support is invasive.
But are all trolls up to that and also you are posting on a public forum. You cant expect that honest truth at all times.

@MaryZ

If we all get too polite...

Tmesis

Mrs de Vere I felt exactly the same about Jess, I felt guilty for thinking

Oh COME ON!

I didn't even name a poster or anything. Seriously.

Maryz Sadly I dont have to try and imagine that scenario. On our amazing bereaved Mums thread we have had a minimum of maybe 6 such 'revolting human beings' (I got that from the Jezzer show this morning so it should be ok to say on here!!) they slowly poison our 'safe haven' - two of them in particular came so very close to bringing a close to our thread. BUT we picked up where we had left off and got on with it. We have, on our thread, all been hurt a thousand times more than any troll could hurt us. Why anybody would want to pretend to be a bereaved parent is beyond my realms of imagination.

Wan king troll? I've missed that one.

@hathorinareddress

I do think a good "fuck off" delivered with aplomb should still be allowed though

And I don't like that it's not anymore

We love aplomb but not with "fuck off" attached.

And we never have. Our Guidelines haven't changed (in essence) for a decade.

I missed it shirls
thats how crap at this I am

I missed it too!

Maryz you're too slow I already pm'd her

Yeah, I missed it too, what did Shirls do/say?

Give it another go Shirl, see if you can re-phrase, I'm very curious now!

In all seriousness, Helen, how are we newbies/thickos/innocent/kitten-brains expected to learn if you delete sooooo fast?

Give a gal a chance, mmm?

Don't you just sometimes get a feeling from the OP? I often think 'nah, that's not right'. I never know whether to report on gut instinct or not. Guess I should based on HQ advice on here...

Erm.

I have no clue why I was deleted actually.

I was saying to Belle that MNHQ can't tell us how they find out trolls but that they don't delete and out trolls without good evidence.

I then said that one of the trolls should note that they woll get caught out sooner or later and instead of saying they're the wanking troll I said something else..

Didn't name any names or allude to them particularly.