mn hq, can we have an explanation - jess - and maybe re other trolls in future?

[wannaBe]

I am aware that you can't divulge the means by which you determine whether or not a poster is genuine, predominantly because if you make that common knowledge then posters will know how to avoid being detected in the future.

but jess (long ongoing eleven weeks abortion threads) threads have now been deleted for being a troll, and I was wondering if, given it's the site users who usually report these things, we could perhaps have a bit more by way of explanation?

e.g. when sassysusan was banned, mn hq confirmed that she had previously posted as washwithcare, and users were able to identify.

There has been some speculation that jess was dizzymare, and I wondered whether this was the case?

Also, these threads have been ongoing for over a month now. How is it that it takes quite this long to determine that someone isn't actually all they seem?

[wannaBe]

agree with that too. But also the posters who shout down any doubts on the basis that mn is someone's "only source of support."

Mn should IMO never be seen as smeone's only source of support. This is a website, not a counselling/rape crisis/refuge - there are many of those in the real world. But also, there are many other parenting forums and other more dedicated forums that are out there if mn is not for you in particular. The idea that mn somehow provides something that no-one else can is pretty arogant IMO.

WRT date joined, I think the problem with that isn't so much to do with being able to trace older posters, but the false sense of security it will create. Just because someone is a regular doesn't mean they're not a troll. Look at mamazon for instance no-one would have suspected she was sockpuppeting on threads (and I know very few of the details tbh), but the fact she was a regular probably would have protected her for a good while because people tend to go by the "oh ,she's a regular, so definitely not a troll" stance.

[RabidEchidna]

Now?

[RabidEchidna]

And again

[RabidEchidna]

Runs in kills thread, leaves

[Pagwaatch]

Northern
I agree it is odd behaviour even if not hairy handed. Especially when it is posted in aibu or chat rather than relationships or parenting or wherever.

[BeamMysterious]

How do you know someone is new though, and not someone who has just changed their name because they are going through a bit of a trauma and genuinely need advice?

Am I being a bit thick? don't answer that

There's no post count on here like other places to show how established a person is.

[Bitofastate]

sorry, should have been more specific, yes the grooming thread not sassysue.

thank you for answering - it upset me and i was hoping was a troll really

[Northernlurker]

I agree there is something rather curious about people who arrive saying 'I've had a huge trauma and I've never posted here before but here all the details - HELP ME'. Not necessarily troll like of course - but definately worthy of a second look.

[Pinot]

agree with porto

[2ombie5layer]

You lot trying to fill this thread up?

I didnt come to MN intially for any advice, just came to relieve some boredom

[Portofino]

And when you get a new poster who has only one long running thread, or only ever posts in one topic after they joined.

[Portofino]

And newbies aren't necessarily trolls. We were all new once. I got a right going over on my first, self indulgent post. I namechanged at once.

I do think there needs to be a statement when you join that this is a chat AND support forum and that some people hold "robust" views. ie MN is not for the feint hearted.

I DON'T get the argument that this is where complete newbies go for support in an emergency. There are SO many resources for help in cases of DV, bereavement, mental health etc that it surprises me when brand new posters roll up here with these kind of issues as their first ever post.

[StealthPolarBear]

Well in the same way as you can't have any of your old profile back, you can't ahve that :o
(but smoetimes you an if you beg)
I really don't see re-regs as a reason not to do this

[HettyKett]

mmm, but plenty of MNers de-reg and then come back Stealth.

[StealthPolarBear]

as far as "when we joned" could we not have

pre 2005 (or 7 years from current year)
2005
2006
etc

[wannaBe]

oh, that thread.

[Portofino]

me too, frasersmummy.

[frasersmummy]

sorry .. troll thread mentions ss and I made the wrong connection ...

sorry ..as you were ..

fm wanders off to where she came from

[Pagwaatch]

Was about/based around.

[Pagwaatch]

The ss was a thread about based around an op asking fir advice where she suspected children were being groomed.
It deteriorated quickly for various reasons and was deleted by mnhq on the grounds that it had all become a pointless bunfights

[Portofino]

The SS are idiots one?

[hathorinareddress]

It's not a sassysusan thread, it's a thread that was deleted this morning about Social Services involvement we're talking about.

I think but I am tired and fed up and I could be wrong

[iCANdothisiCAN]

Fair enough punch ! Definitely not ready for that though, maybe i'll work up to it!

Think I may have been sucked in today so will wait and see!

[wannaBe]

what ss thread?