mn hq, can we have an explanation - jess - and maybe re other trolls in future?

[wannaBe]

I am aware that you can't divulge the means by which you determine whether or not a poster is genuine, predominantly because if you make that common knowledge then posters will know how to avoid being detected in the future.

but jess (long ongoing eleven weeks abortion threads) threads have now been deleted for being a troll, and I was wondering if, given it's the site users who usually report these things, we could perhaps have a bit more by way of explanation?

e.g. when sassysusan was banned, mn hq confirmed that she had previously posted as washwithcare, and users were able to identify.

There has been some speculation that jess was dizzymare, and I wondered whether this was the case?

Also, these threads have been ongoing for over a month now. How is it that it takes quite this long to determine that someone isn't actually all they seem?

I know beer I try not to, it's why I don't post a lot, and I'd never offer money coz I'm tight because I couldn't be 100% sure where it was going to but I've knitted and donated wool for the blankets.

It's just right now I'm stressed with work and tired and less likely to pick up something, I have no will power when tired!

Do you think there is something in the air, or a full moon or something as MN seems to have been add of late

ODD even

Thinking about it when a thread gets deleted does the OP get a messages telling them and why? just curious. I didnt get an email when my post was deleted.

So Jess was a troll?

There's a surprise eh!

tbh I think there is a formua:

• troll has very emotive story, i.e. pregnant by abusive partner, in abusive relationship has been through serious trauma such as rape, or suffering from serious illness (just by way of examples.

• very happy to share the most intimate details of their situation, with sharing increasing as the story unfolds

• posts in the midst of the drama e.g. "oh, I am locked out of the house and h won't let me in/h/bf hit me and now I'm bleeding/having contractions and am just so so so scared," or even befriending someone to do this on their behalf, dizzymare did this, and texted another mn'er to say she was on her way to the hospital.

• encouraging users to post e.g. "I might not be saying much, but I am reading all your posts," or even again pretending to be a friend (sockpuppet) "x doesn't feel she can read this thread at the moment because it' too painful, but I will read your messages to her,". My troll did this - she was in a coma and her "sister" was posting from her twitter account saying "I want you to know she is in a coma, I will read her tweets to her, knowing how much enjoyment she gets from them,"

it's very emotionally charged language designed to provoke a response...

I never put it together in my head to think of Dizzymare but now it seems so bloody obvious. Everything seems so similar now.

TSC who says that Jess on here is the same person on ebay? She might be someone who sold to Jess and stole her username? I found her on ebay too, but did wonder if she is someone who just stole the username.

I think that if it were just jess that would be plausible, but all the numbers after just make it less so IMO

I am not surprised to find out that Jess was not all she seemed.
But saddened and angry tbh.
I did not post but read a fair bit of her threads and so many people invested their time, experiences and offered advice/help.

I agree with wannabe that a bit more info from MNHQ is helpful and gives a sense of 'closure'.

Dizzymare never occured to me...

From my own point of view as a bereaved mum, it's not often that i can talk openly about my ds1. But to find a place such as the bereaved mums thread here on MN, well.. it's kind of a lifeline. To be able to go on there and speak honestly, truthfully and frankly, and know you're amongst people who actually get it, well, imo it's something special.

I got sucked in by Dizzymare. I'll openly admit it - i fell for it hook, line and sinker. I believed what she said. In my defence, i was at a vulnerable point in my life - newly pregnant, with a new partner, totally confused and lost, and she fed on that i think. I opened up to her, shared experiences with her and boy did i feel like a twat when she was outed.

But you know what? I'd likely do it again - the being open and sharing experiences bit - because if it helps another person going through a similar thing feel a bit better, then it's got to be worth it.

Though, saying that, the whole Dizzymare thing, and later the SassySusan thing, well it's hardened me up somewhat too, made me a bit cynical. I don't post as often nor as openly on the bereaved mums board as i used to, Shabbs will tell you that.

Sassysusan was not a troll though - or at least not in the sassysusan guise. Have followed her blog for a long time and she had another baby last year.