what the actual is that facebook like button doing there?

[CarolCervix]

has it always been there? or has it moved? and does that mean if someone 'likes' that thread it will be posted to their fb page?

Yes but I think the likelihood of like being pressed in error is too high. The mobile sites erratic, the apps a nightmare and plenty of us post with toddlers/babies/Pinots kittens/entitled Ravens in the vicinity - much too much margin for error.

You don't have to put the information up there. If you don't want people to know what music you listen to then you don't link your spotify to you FB. They are enforcing a layout change, but it's still up to you what information you put out there. You dot have to have a FB account and if you do want oe you can be as reserved or forthcoming as you like. They're not going to generate the content fr you unless you choose to utilise the automated update apps, such as the one that lets you tell people you just read an article on the Guardian, or DM website.

If you never like an MN thread, one will ever be posted to your wall. If your friend likes one you'll see a quick update n between likes fr DYAC and asos. The odd friend of a friend will think the thread looks worth a read, there is no link between you and that link. Unless all your friends madly start linking, nobody is go to think 'hmmm, that Person A sure knows a lot of people who link to Mumsnet, aha". Seriously, why would they? Besides, if most of your friends are linking to MN then they're already here and probably reading your posts.

I don't love FB and hardly ever use it. I just don't understand the outcry whenever MN introduces changes.

Bloody ipad, that's almost totally unreadable. Sorry. The first para is just about the DM link up the thread. You still choose your own content, it's a format change. That article is a stunning piece of fabrication, the DM is very impressive like that.

Your use of MN won't go on your wall unless you like it. If you like it by accident, delete the like. If the bulk of your friends are posting MN likes then you'll have some in your news feed, but unless you all share the same friends your newsfeed looks different anyway. If you do all have the same friends and everyone is posting MN links, then you're all MNers and already reading each other's posts. If you're friends with someone who posts links in a spiteful manner, then just delete them - they're not someone to keep around.

What with the "like" button on any site?How old are we 12? I dont care who likes or doesnt like what i post,but i do want it kept to mn only.I dont do fb if i wanted to i would sign up but i choose to only do mumsnet.

OK, there is a delicate symbiosis going on here. We all like MN because it gives us a social outlet and allows us to remain relatively anonymous. MN needs posters who generate interesting or relevant threads to generate traffic and advertising revenue. think Nemo and anenome

Up until today, the two parties have co-existed relatively happily. But suddenly the symbiotic balance changes! One party provides a forum foc in exchange for hosting advertising. The other party provides the content. Suddenl nor party that they are going to get a better share of the deal - i.e. greater publicity - at the expense of the other party, who suddenly becomes more vulnerable.

Well, maybe it's time to shift the balance. I'm often a thread starter in Chat and Aibu. I'm one of MN's content providers who help to generate traffic. But, seriously, if my chat is a commodity that MN want to use to "go viral" and generate revenue, then I'm not sure I can be arsed.

So what

Shit. Slightly pissed (I know it's only Thurs) but hopefully you get the gist.

Haha,im also slightly pissed on thursday.I was all self righteous at dh's drunkeness before htting the hay and realising im also quite pissed.I nearly fell over trying to get out of my jeans and my spanx are still in them

Another "please get rid of it ASAP" poster here.

It does open MN up to wider abuse by influx of people who would never normally "find" MN.

If you HAVE to have it, I think it should ONLY be for Chat or AIBU and NOTHING ELSE. Yes, you've apparently restricted some of the sensitive topics but not all by a long shot - which is dangerous.

Also, and I have read the whole thread but haven't seen the answer yet, HOW does this link to your own FB page? What if the poster in question has TWO FB accounts - one with an MN name, and one with their RL name? Does it post to BOTH accounts? Or just one?

It's really a horribly easy way for people to just spread it around, and while it may get more genuine posters, I think it's far more likely to attract more loons and trolls. BAD IDEA.

Thumb, it doesn't link to your Facebook page unless you choose to put it there. You might see post in your newsfeed that says Delia Symbiosis liked the What Are We All, 12? Thread on Mumsnet. If you clicked on her link you'd end up here. It's like seeing a post from an old school mate in your feed that says Huw Ahyouagen liked "Facebook Is Evil and Is Going To Eat Your Babies" on the Daily Screamer, clicking on the link and reading something on an online news site. It doesn't link you to your MN nickname or profile. It doesn't go on your wall unless you put it there.

No I know it's not going to link to MY FB page unless I choose to press the sodding Like button, which I'm not ever going to, but I was wondering for the sake of other posters, some of whom I have on my FB friends list with their MN identities, not their RL identities.

I "like" MN on FB as it is, so they post randomly to my wall when they feel like it - I might click through if it looks interesting - but I don't know if other people can see it UNLESS I choose to "share" it with the world. I don't think they can, but I don't know.

Like others though, I am concerned about the widening scope of access to MN by this means. Because of the loons and trolls that are out there (and some in here as well).

I don't really think that is the issue though Lorem.

The scary part for me, anyway, is that I have in the past been quite open with you lot about stuff I've never shared with another person.

There is probably enough of me on here that if you were slightly weird (like my sil for instance) you could notice that it 'sounds like' me and stalk through my previous messages to find proof/rants/stuff I don't want her to know.

It's not that I am worried about things on the thread that is liked/posted being open to stalking, it's that the six degrees of separation will kick in and nothing I post here will ever be honest again.

Which would be a shame.

MNHQ - IT NEEDS TO GO. WE DO NOT POST ON HERE SO THAT IT GOES ALL OVER FACEBOOK.

MANY OF US DONT LIKE FACEBOOK FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE A SURVEY TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE THINK FIRST.

WELL I SHALL HAVE TO NAMECHANGE EVEN MORE OFTEN THAN I DO ALREADY JUST TO KEEP MY ANONYMITY.

NOT HAPPY

This is horrible. Really bad decision, MN.

I think it will result in people removing phots and prsonal information from their profiles and a rush to request thread deletions as well....

You may live to regret it MNHQ!

dont like it. really unhappy about it. Especially worried about accidently clicking it.

Yes, I too am worried about accidentally clicking it, esp. on a iPad when I find I am often accidentally clicking on message poster, and report.

to 'accidentally' click it you need to click two buttons! You need to click 'like' and then you need to click 'post to facebook'...........I really can't see anyone accidentally 'liking' anything without realising

Completely agree with Getorf BTW. I have a photo on my profile and there is enough evidence to help anyone remotely interested 'find me' on MN if they could be bothered, with a few well aimed advanced searches, and I feel slightly uncomfortable about that, but I am willing to take the chance and I cannot be arsed with all the cloak and dagger self-censoring I would have to engage in in order to minimise the risk. But I am fairly happy that the risk is a small one.

Add hundreds of links to FB every week, and suddenly that small risk starts to look a whole lot bigger.

and, and, and - there was a little facebook share thingy before wasn't there? (or am I imagining that?) where people should share threads on FB easily..........

If I like this thread.......well who, apart from MNers on my FB who already know who I am - how is anyone going to identify that I'm even posting on it??

Heck - my 11yr old ended up on here the other week, I sent him to search for a chocolate cake recipe that used hot chocolate instead of cocoa.........bizarrely the thread he ended up on I had posted on (he didn't know it was me though as it was years ago and a different username but he did use the recipe)

not to mention that MNHQ regularly share a fair number of 'interesting' threads on their FB (and I'm guessing twitter though don't use it?) every day!

You only need to click two buttons in theory. In practice it's not actually working, and regardless of which button you click or indeed if you cancel the pop up entirely it still posts to your FB wall. Which just goes to show that links and things can very easily mess up.

Seems like a really bad idea to me mainly because it makes it so much easier for the fairly regular invasions, which really aren't fun for members here. Plus many people have their Facebook settings wide open (partly because the privacy settings are very iffy) so threads could get widely shared very fast and with no control at all. Facebook itself is such a monolith I wonder why MN wants to be so closely linked with them - surely the MN FB page is a good enough presence?

I too really dislike the way that my FB presence seems to appear all over the place, and I have all the privacy settings locked down as much as I can.

I have googled things before now and have accidentally got a a result of myself posting on MN!

I want to add my name to the "Don't like" protest!

I know we could be a perpetual name-changer, but I have always been this name and I dont want to change. I also like to recognise others on here by their names, even if it is anonymous, the name is recognisable. I hate the idea of anything from Mumsnet being linked to a facebook page whenever anyone wants to.

MNHQ - I note that Helenmumsnet said that Rebeccamumsnet would come and field our disquiet reply last evening, but she hasn't.

Please get rid!!

How interesting, this exact same thing happened when LiveJournal hooked up to Facebook. All the same arguments and everything. Every time a pseudonymous site forces linkup with a realname site, the population splits like this. But most people will go along with it; it's the prevailing wind, I think. Look at g+

Someone should do a paper.

I am withdrawing, mesen, to find another properly pseudonymous forum. No harm, no foul, but also, no thanks. Good luck with going realname, MN.

If you do accidentally post a like to your Facebook, there is no link to you MN profile. Even so, you can simply delete the FB post.