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Abbreviations and gender focus

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clutha · 27/12/2010 06:27

My fiance and i joined mumsnet seperately but dont post very often, as we both have difficulty comprehending posts, due to the abbreviations.

We are both seasoned forum users, and are well versed in acronymns common to fora.
However, those on mumsnet seem unique to mumsnet.

Is their a guide for these?

Also as the propsective father, I am interested to know if mumsnet is so called as it is a forum geared up specifically for mothers, as opposed to parents?
Hence why their is a section for women's rights, but not men's rights, as one example.

Does this mean that mumsnet isnt set up for myself, but i should be frequenting a 'parentsnet'?
And if so, can you reccommend a forum for this?

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Tee2072 · 27/12/2010 06:40

There's a lovely little link up there, called, acronyms. That should help, although I can only think of two MN ones I've not seen elsewhere.

And there are men on MN, but the focus is in the name, isn't it?

clutha · 27/12/2010 06:48

thank you for the info.

i kind of figured the same as regards your second line.
im did wonder if the tolerance of men slating posts, threads, or sections would extend to the same as regards women, but if this site is set up as primarily for women, then that's fair enough.

in which case can anyone reccomend a parents forum?

many thanx

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Tee2072 · 27/12/2010 06:55

Have you googled 'parents forums'?

There are thousands. All different. No one is going to be able to recommend one as no one knows you.

Do a bit of research. You might find something interesting.

SlantyBaws · 27/12/2010 06:59

The tagline for mumsnet is "by parents for parents" so it is open for all (despite having mum in the title or the site).

Yes there is a section called woman's rights, but there is also a section called dadsnet.

If you go into TOPICS you will see these sections plus many many more...

clutha · 27/12/2010 06:59

of course i can google

however, indeed, personal recommendations were actually what i was politely requesting.

why would one need to know me personally to recommend a website?

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SlantyBaws · 27/12/2010 06:59

*of

Tee2072 · 27/12/2010 07:04

Well, I personally recommend MN!

HTH!

YunoYurbubson · 27/12/2010 07:07

I hear Netmums is popular.

clutha · 27/12/2010 07:09

sorry, that reply was for Tee

Hello slanty, thanks for your info.
I did not see the dads section, i will check it out

I dont have an issue if a website called mumsnet is therefore biased toward women and hence man bashing threads, it would all be logical from that POV.
Which is fair enough.

But im interested in joining a parenting network as an imminent first time parent, so favoured a site that didnt have an interest in gender stereotyping, but just focussed on overall general parenting for both sexes.

Hence the requests for people's personal recommendations.
But maybe i might find what im looking for in the dads section and a few other sections on here.
I shall see if those together would outweigh seeing all the heavy gender stereotyping complaining on here.

Many thanks

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clutha · 27/12/2010 07:11

Hi Yuno

Yes, i have seen netmums mentioned on here a couple times.

Umm,, one wonders though if the 'mums' tag also leads to the same sort of thing.....

..shall have a look

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Tee2072 · 27/12/2010 07:12

Clutha, my point is that you are probably not going to find what you are looking for unless you look for it.

I do not find MN threads 'gender bashing'. I find women looking for help with men who do not pull their weight/abuse them/what have you.

Different points of view. Therefore, you need to go find the website that is best for you.

If you enter MN thinking all the 'My DH is XYZ' threads are gender bashing? Then you're right, this is the wrong place for you.

If you are looking for advice about your new or soon to be baby? There is tons here, if you take the chip off your shoulder and look.

clutha · 27/12/2010 07:19

Hi tee

but i never said i wasnt looking??

surely starting this thread proves i am??

i never used the phrase gender bashing.

in fact, i said it also makes sense if the culture of the site is what the name implies, and used the phrase "thats fair enough" several times

i also already said i note that mumsnet has sections on parenting that may be useful, and will check out the dads section.

therefore am i displaying a chip on my shoulder, or are you just misreading or misintepreting my posts from your own preconceptions?

i think slanty has understood what i mean and replied accordingly.

thanks for your help

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Tee2072 · 27/12/2010 07:24

Sorry, I shortened your pompous 'the tolerance of men slating posts, threads, or sections...' to 'gender bashing'.

I like to use as few words as possible. Saves on typing. And I do think you are on the wrong forum. But your wife may not be...

YunoYurbubson · 27/12/2010 08:01

Clutha. Try iVillage.co.uk

Pantofino · 27/12/2010 08:04

I think you are overthinking this a bit!

clutha · 27/12/2010 08:47

Hello Tee

Im only noting my observations of the forum as a newbie.
It is noticeable there are men-slating posts threads and sections on here.
That isnt me being pompous, that's just me noticing what is on the screen.

Subsequent to that observation, im just trying to narrow down the general culture of this site to work out if it's for me.

I just grew up viewing people as individuals, so have never been interested in stereotyping.
For that reason, i've never been interested in hearing about 'men this/women that'.
To be honest, i just cant be assed with it, i just find it tiresome to look at it.

However, im also interested in a good site that has really good stuff about parenting.

So was enquiring if mumsnet was merely what written on the tin, ie, all about mums and therefore implied dad/husband/man moans, or was their a facility for a dad's perspective as well?

I'm told their is, so already said i will give that a try along with the more general parenting and other sections i might be interested in (ie, pets).

I am also pne of those people that suffers information overload, it doesn't help me relax.
For that reason, i avoid the homepage of mumsnet, as i find it way too busy and hectic and cant see the wood for the trees, so i stick to the acive post buttons.
(As a dog trainer, my first forum is called dogsey, but even on there i find i need to avoid the homepage due to the same sort of layout. I also deleted facebook for the same reason....not to mention all the crap on FB.).

Hopefully, their wont be a bunch of 'men this men that threads' that keep popping up as active putting me off the other stuff im interested in.

And thanks Yuno, i will look up ivillage as well.

PS Tee - my fiance has said she isnt as keen as me on trying out mumsnet much further, she says the acronyms put her off.

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Pantofino · 27/12/2010 09:37

You can hide the stuff you are not interested in you know. Click on customise above and you can then select the topics that may be of interest and only threads on these will appear in active conversations.

clutha · 27/12/2010 09:56

Brilliant tip Panto

cheers

The net is a great tool, but i have learnt of late that it has a downside, as you get hooked into all the negative hateful stuff, or trivial time wasting stuff, then all of a sudden you find you have wasted your life and neglected the priorities.
Tv is the same....we have way too much media overload, so im in a process of scaling down and finding tehcniques to access the media I currenty use in a more constructive way.
So as to avoid the stuff that stresses me out due to its content and my annoyance with myself.

As i have my first child due soon, i really wish to keep the strength and focus on that, so it good of you to advise me on good technqiue to prevent mumsnet becoming just another media site that will obstruct me from becoming a good dad.

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catinthehat2 · 27/12/2010 10:06

You need Netmums or Babycentre. Honestly.
You'll go down a storm on either.

catinthehat2 · 27/12/2010 10:10

"Tv is the same....we have way too much media overload, so im in a process of scaling down and finding tehcniques to access the media I currenty use in a more constructive way. "

You're funny!

Most of us just call that "Switching The Telly Off".

BertieBottlesOfMulledWine · 27/12/2010 10:15

They called it Mumsnet because Parentsnet sounded crap.

HTH

LadyintheRadiator · 27/12/2010 10:38

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clutha · 27/12/2010 11:13

i never said women should post about men's rights.
having said that, what we be wrong if they did?

i think i said i figured that if this is a forum primarily focussed on women, then that makes sense if their is a big female bias.

i enquired how far that female focus goes and if their is a more balanced non or cross gender culture whereby their would be a men's right section, just as an example.
and threads/posts bemoaning what the wife has done wrong etc?.

just a cursory glance this morning cropped up with some 'men moan' stereotyping posts.
as i said earlier, im reporting what i have seen and trying to suss out the general culture of this site and the accepted balance between general parenting issues v husband/father moans.

so as to decide if this is the right site for my personal needs and preferances.
some people have responded to my posts in that vein and given me some good tips and suggestions of their own

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clutha · 27/12/2010 11:16

*catinthehat2 Mon 27-Dec-10 10:10:00

"Tv is the same....we have way too much media overload, so im in a process of scaling down and finding tehcniques to access the media I currenty use in a more constructive way. "

You're funny!

Most of us just call that "Switching The Telly Off".*

errrr, whom said i wasnt doing such things?
maybe you havent seen my other posts?

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clutha · 27/12/2010 11:18

Hello Bertiesbottlee

I must admit the name attracted me, "mumsnet" sounds cool!

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