Thick I know but where do you get pens to mark water bottles and lunch boxes and what are they called?

[moondog]

Can't believe I don't know this.

You can just use a permanent marker pen, available from most stationers and supermarkets.

Really? It doesn't come offd???

It fades after a while, but lasts for ages.

I think you are looking for Sharpie markers

Thank you.

or CD pens

I have just started to use nail varnish.

Tippex works a treat on black lunchboxes.