dvd recorder with hard disc drive

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ok-have tried and failed for last 2 hours to read geeky websites and reviews, need help!
Considering getting DH a dvd recorder with hard disc drive and vcr, to replace most of the crud under out tv that any visitor needs a 4hr tutorial to use.
Does anyone know if the recorder works like Tivo/sky plus, can you set it to record a series etc.
Or alternatively is sky plus in the same box as sky or is it another box?
Many thanks

If you're looking for a dvd recorder, go for a Panasonic or Sony for about £300. They do well picture wise and are also easier to use and they do have basic Tivo like abilities.
Sky+ has the best abilities for recording but the picture quality does suffer a little bit if you then transfer the recording onto a dvd recorder afterwards. Saying that, you can get Sky+ for free and Sainsbury's are doing a good budget dvd recorder (without hard drive) for £130.

thanks
already have dvd recorder and tivo and vcr, problem is that its really complicated to work them all, have to flip around channels and buttons whilst chanting under a full moon!

try

www.dvd.reviewer.co.uk/forums/default.asp?Forum=223

this is the bargain buckets forum, but the whole site has areas that can help you

Think this audiovisual.kelkoo.co.uk/b/a/ps_14806794/100304323.html is what you're looking for but I'm not too sure about it's various skills. It also doesn't have a freeview/sky tuner either. Personally, I'd buy a dvd recorder/vcr and Sky+. Samsung make some cracking ones for a good price.

weve got a dvd recorder with hd and each model does various things but ours does this;

Cant record a series unless you preprogramme in the dates times and channels etc(just like a vcr timer)
You can watch the start of the progamme your recording even when its still recording

You can watch a dvd and at the same time record it to hd

Watch a dvd and record to hd and the otherway around.

and god knows what else.