Do men really prefer a fully shaved/ waxed woman?

[PhillipaLalla]

Hi all,

Slightly embarrassing topic. After a drunken chat with a group of friends (mix of men and women) I am starting to question what I have always thought was common or expected in terms of women's intimate grooming.

During the convo, all the male friends said they prefer it when women are fully shaved/ waxed down there. All of them! They said it is better for oral and a turn on in general. Also most of the female friends seemed to agree and implied that that was their preferred style.

I was a bit surprised, as I never realized that had become the expected norm and most popular style? I must have been living under a rock! Especially considering that I have been single for a couple of years

Of course I acknowledge people have different tastes and expectations and not everyone is the same.

Now there's a weird orthodoxy that we should all (as men and women) shave off all our pubic hair ! For who?

That’s what depresses me, Gonzo, that teenagers (well, mostly girls to be frank) are growing up with society telling them their bodies are disgusting and need to modified to be acceptable. It’s not really about choice at all, as some are claiming.
Sure, a young person can choose not to shave their nethers (or legs or armpits) but the reaction these days is likely to be very negative.

My dh prefers my vulva completely hairless, and says it's because of the porn he watched when he was young.

I however do not prefer my vulva completely hairless - and as it's mine, I win. I trim closely, but always have, pre-meeting him.

To answer the original question, I think it's more a case of what many men (not all) do not prefer, and that is fully wild and untrimmed, as that would make oral a bit more tricky and in some cases where the hair spreads beyond the leg crease and on to the upper inner thighs, maybe not so visually appealing to some, although I accept some have a strong preference for the fully natural look.

Ultimately it is the woman's choice and that should be respected.

Men will have their preferences - some like tall, some like short, some like blondes, some like redheads, some like unshaved, some like smooth. All is fine and each to their own, I say.

In all honesty, willing, enthusiastic and available is more important and appreciated that any hair style, that much I can guarentee.

willing and enthusiastic 🤣

I love how simple men are. ❤️

If a woman likes it,maybe she could entrust the shaving to her man..?

@LittleMissFun.

By the time you've climbed the mountain, you don't worry about the view, you're just glad to be there. LOL

I’ve just seen an advert on telly for razors for women, as well as legs and armpits, in one of the shots the woman is shaving her arms. WTAF, is that a thing now?

But too much bush can have a sand papering effect on ones member..

@LittleMissFunTimes here here 👏

We men are simple folk. I am sure I speak for most men when I say that whether shaved, trimmed or what ever, a woman's vulva is a thing of amazing beauty and wonder. I for one feel extremely privileged to be allowed any where near one😊 . Ladies...it is yours to style as you wish. I love 'em☺ but I am a simple bloke!

I find Looking at a patch of hair not quite as interesting as seeing the details clearly.

I am bemused by the notion that there must be AGMs of porn -makers where they make whim based decisions where they will decide to commission an avalanche of this that or the other just for the hell of it, without there being any evidence of any interest or demand.

I believe that the things that are popular in porn became popular because people actually liked them.

Yes yes when something becomes popular that creates its own pressure to conform, but you ccould say that about anything.

Sex is popular because it is popular. Of course this creates an air of normality and expectation that will see people (especially younger female people) going along with it and having sex because they feel like they ought to, it is normal, everyone else does it etc etc.

But you cannot extrapolate from that that people are only having sex because they have been socially conditioned into thinking they like it. Yet people do this with things like pubic shaving.

Also bemused by the 'who cares what men think' comments.

That is the luxury of those who do not care about things like being found attractive, being wanted, fancied, etc etc.

For everyone else if there are generalisations as to what men will find attractive or off-putting, or what women will find attractive or off-putting, well those who care about being found attractive cannot just wish away those "constrraints".

I mean, if most women prefer non-overweight men then I could say who cares what women think, eat all I want AND get less action, or I could take heed of that and then possibly get more action. Just the way it works.

Isn't it important to care what your partner wants/likes when in a committed relationship? Doesn't mean you have to do something you don't want to but give and take is an important part of the good relationship (and sex life)

Isn't it important to care what your partner wants/likes when in a committed relationship?

Yes of course it is, but this you find out by communicating with your partner, not by worrying about what "most men" allegedly prefer.
This thread was about men in general. I can't imagine giving a hoot about whether random men on the street would like my clothes or hair when I go out, or whether I'm doing the sort of grooming that Mr Average would prefer.

I do care what my husband thinks, though.

That is the luxury of those who do not care about things like being found attractive, being wanted, fancied, etc etc

I am found attractive and wanted, thank you. Probably not by most men, but then, I don't find most men attractive either.

I'm with Sparkybloke in that I'll just grateful to be intimate with a woman, and although I do have a preference sex with a woman is infinitely better than yet another lonely wank

I’ve just seen an advert on telly for razors for women, as well as legs and armpits, in one of the shots the woman is shaving her arms. WTAF, is that a thing now?

Many people attributing the depilation obsession to porn. Played a role, I don't doubt; but I tend to find most trends derive from money somewhere.
All the fashions over the ages tend to idolise that which is harder to get, thus requirous of money. We now value tanned skin - suggests exotic holidays and elevated levels of leisure time. In the Middle-ages, we preferred pale skin - suggestive of not being a field hand and having property of sufficient size to spend considerable time inside.
Porn doesn't gain anything by pushing all women to defoliate. If anything, being hyper-cynical (and accepting merely for the sake of argument that bald was better), you could argue it dilutes one of its USPs. Shaving companies, however, do benefit - especially in an era when beard shaving is not as universal a desire as it was, say, 15 years ago. So, cue the new paid-for image of femininity - the lady who buys the (at additional expense) pink coloured razor, the (at additional expense) feminine gel, etc, etc. All they need now is to encourage 'new' shaving to blunt those blades and get you buying replacements - arms, legs, pits, pussy, back, shoulders, face-fuzz.
I bet they'd try for head-hair if Garnier wouldn't slap them back to the stone age for it.

In answer to the OP (though many have said the same)...

There is no such thing as what 'men' prefer. We are amorphous. As a collective, we love and hate everything. Individually, we have our preferences. The preferences of the men you know are theirs and theirs alone.

Based on above, and on female self-determination, does it really matter what men prefer? There are some openly anti-men ways to express this, but I guess the valid point is to what extent you want to do things to attract a mate. If you like one way, and find partners who are in sync, great. If not, you have a choice about looking for different partners or deciding if this issue is of sufficient value for you to dig your heels in as it were.

As for me, I am happy with whatever and there are far more interesting things about ladies that make them attractive (or not); but if pushed to truly offer something in an all-else-being-equal type scenario - I prefer the feel of a change in landscape if I am stroking my hand down a lady's stomach, however, a huge amount of hair can present a bit of a hair-in-mouth scenario (not unavoidable, but need to work around). So, trimmed works best for me.

But too much bush can have a sand papering effect on ones member..

I'd suggest you're doing it wrong.....

"That is the luxury of those who do not care about things like being found attractive, being wanted, fancied, etc etc.

For everyone else if there are generalisations as to what men will find attractive or off-putting, or what women will find attractive or off-putting, well those who care about being found attractive cannot just wish away those "constrraints"."

But surely, most people are clothes when they meet and aroused by the time they take their clothes off. So you wouldn't be using your genitals to try to attract someone, would you?