Porn and new od

[spankingnewme]

Met a guy online, all going well. Tried couple new things as he obviously was into them anal being one. Liked him a lot so tried more than once dispite it never being on my to do list and found it ok but nowhere near as pleasurable as normal sex which I love. Anyway had a very rare wknd away together and he'd bought me a couple of pairs of sexy undies and some anal beads, also we watched some porn, which I don't usually but after he was asleep I carried on flipping through clips and found the most revolting things like women being as they called it 'face fucked' till they puked omg it was vile and I wish I could unsee what these stupid women were letting be done to them ( they did not look like trafficked women just normal porn 'stars') anyway it's tainted my view on him and his porn usage, if he watches this stuff which I'm sure he does and explains why he likes the cum in your face thing, then he's just going to want more and more isn't he? Gutted as he seemed ok, bloody pissed off this filth is on the net as it has no place and the men should be fuckin well castrated.

Also the way you argue is shutting down any debate so it's impossible for any one to agree with you and find common ground.

I think it's worrying that women are doing things which make them gag and their eyes water! Why would men want to do this to someone they are supposed to care for? I suspect that there aren't that many men doing things which cause them physical discomfort/pain because their partners like it. Hurting my partner is the very opposite of what I'm aiming for.

I think something has gone wrong with society when people need this stuff to get aroused.

As far as I'm concerned my eyes watering is neither here or there it's certainly not a reason to stop. It's a minor involuntary reaction it's not in the least sore nor is it a physical discomfort. If I was gagging or being sick that would be a whole other story.

And I assure you my partner in no way needs it to get aroused ffs

So why do you do it? Sorry, it's not my wish to be rude or cause you offense, it's just that I don't understand why you would want to do something that makes you gag. The times that I have gagged have been uncomfortable and I wouldn't want to repeat it tbh.

It DOESN'T make me gag. It only makes my eyes water.

That's OK then.

Eyes watering is a defensive reaction to actual or potential harm to mucous membranes. You seem quite proud of undergoing sex acts that provoke it. Puzzling indeed.

I didn't say I was proud but for something that happens for about 5 mins maybe once a month I really don't see it as that big a deal. It's my choice to do it.

Your mucous membranes, your choice. Of course.

And your choice to mention it if ever the abuse of women in porn is mentioned.

All sorts of things make my eyes water - chopping onions, cold winds... I'd rather my eyes didn't water as a result of a sexual act, but I can't raise a to it when another woman is cool with it.

Perhaps someone could draw up a list of what constitutes acceptable sexual activity between consenting adults.

Okay.

1)Activities which don't degrade and hurt women.

2)Activities that do not involve women being coerced.

Perhaps what we really need is more people coming out and saying- 'ah women love choking on cock' etc etc- because there really aren't enough people doing that right now.

I'd probably rather my eyes water from a consensual sex act than chopping an onion any day!

So activities that degrade and hurt men are OK?

Where are you getting that from?

Stupid question Bartholin

Of course it isn't okay to degrade and hurt men either. It should go without saying, but obviously not. It's just that the majority of people who are degraded and hurt by porn are women.

any excuse to get men back where they belong...centre stage

It sounds crazy, but some people do enjoy a bit of pain.

Why should it sound crazy? There is masses of porn out there showing violent sex acts on women.

You're in lovely company/hardly a minority, are you?

Yup, nothing "crazy" about something so commonplace. It's kinda boring really.

Now violent and damaging sex acts meted out to men by women ?That's a bit more niche that one.

Niche yes, and yet readily available on mainstream porn sites. I believe "cock and ball torture' is a common theme among enthusiasts.

1)Activities which don't degrade and hurt women.
Could you be more specific please, because there are wildly different opinions on what acts degrade or hurt?
If something hurts you but doesn't hurt me, is that acceptable?
What about dom/sub relationships and BDSM in general?
There are some women who find oral sex degrading, others love it.

Some people genuinely enjoy a certain amount of pain, that doesn't mean they are being degraded and it doesn't make their partner abusive.

Is the desire to do the 'niche' activities talked about here, an innate part of some people or is it something that our society is teaching us is 'normal' ? If women want to do acts which are degrading and painful, why do those acts appeal?

In theory consenting couples should be able to do what they want, within the law. However, with porn, who knows what is consented to and what is coerced? With private couples I guess everyone has their own boundaries but women are often socialised to make everyone around them happy - can that spill over into wanting to do something because a partner wants it? I don't inderstand where the desire for humiliation/pain comes from.

I think there should be more control over the porn on the internet - anything that looks like it is painful should be blocked. I know it wouldnt fix the trafficking in porn but it might reduce it if the audience was cut off. I also dont want my sons to see this stuff and absorb the idea that this is okay.

Sorry, you asked me to be specific and I just realised that I haven't been at all. If people are going to do activities which have the potential to be painful, then the person who is likely to get hurt should be the one in control at all times. So no face fucking, for example.

I have led a sheltered life - I dodn't even know that was a thing until I read this thread.