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Oh! Oh! My firstborn starts secondary school in September. Surely that warrants a support thread?

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Cadelaide · 19/03/2010 13:45

Am I a bit too early for this?

I mean it's months away yet, isn't it?

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Doobydoo · 22/05/2010 20:33

sorry re caps

Cadelaide · 23/05/2010 23:30

Froid, my boy sounds like yours.

I'm hoping he'll make some good friends. It's a huge school so chances are there'll be more like him, iyswim.

Have I made him sound like an alien?

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whenslydale · 25/05/2010 06:59

Joining in.. doobydoo I know what you mean. ds starting in Sept when he'll be 11 and one month and it has bugged me all through primary that no allowance is ever made for the fact that there is nearly a year between him and a lot of the others. On the other hand ds if anything seems more mature than a lot of the older ones and says he's fed up in primary because he doesn't want to do playgrond games and so on anymore.

His state secondary school specialises in the Arts so I'm hoping he will find more like-minded kids there. They have a system where they group kids according to their interests and mix all the year groups into a tutor group that meet at registration so it helps to reduce bullying by making the older kids feel responsible for the younger. All sounds good and he has 3 induction days in July! Glad he doesn't have to get the bus I must admit...

AnnaSergeyevna · 28/05/2010 09:02

Well we heard from the school finally and were told who would be our sons Learning Manager.
But what on earth is a Learning Manager?! Is it a new term for form tutor?
The confusion starts here. I am only used to traditional old fashioned school ways and lingo. I expect this is only the beginning of many other terms and concepts that will be alien to me

BigTillyMint · 28/05/2010 21:05

Never heard that one before, Anna! Well I guess it will be a steep learning curve for us all

Greenshadow · 02/06/2010 19:59

Hello everyone.
Not PFB here, but like Ruby, our youngest DS is starting Secondary school in September.
Can't beat your 19 years of the school run Ruby but we have done 11 years so far and will now be sending DS3 off on the school bus.
He will also be the only one from his primary going to his secondary and he is not happy...
I'm confident he will make friends with time, but have every sympathy for him for the first few days. Unfortunately because of the way the catchment area works, most of the other children will know each other, or at least quite a few others.
We still haven't heard from the school yet - just the county after his place was confirmed. Think I'd better call again after half term.

AnnaSergeyevna · 03/06/2010 11:40

Hi Greenshadow, my ds will also be the only one from his school going to the secondary. He seems fine about it, but the number of children moving up together, with established friendship groups, does make me worry about his first few days. He won't have a single familiar face .

Like you I'm pretty confident he'll find new friends quickly but I can't help worrying.

Also hoping that experienced secondary school mums like you can impart some pearls of wisdom and calming influence to us, nervous, newbies

PixieOnaLeaf · 03/06/2010 20:50

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kodokan · 11/06/2010 16:13

Can I join in? We're in Switzerland, where my 10 yr old DS (would be Yr 5 in UK) will finish primary in a few weeks, then go into secondary at the end of August. Proper secondary, with different teachers for different subjects, full of bigger kids.

And we don't yet know which of two schools he will be allocated to, his current one or the one in the next village. Or what his hours will be each day, or which of his friends will be in his next class.

And at the end of the next two years of continuous assessment, he'll be streamed into one of 3 academic paths for the remainder of his secondary schooling, only one of which can lead to university.

And it's all in French, and we only moved here two years ago so although he's made terrific progress he still has a long way to go to native level.

twitch

Do I win the 'Most Stressful Situation' prize?

cat64 · 11/06/2010 16:27

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Litchick · 11/06/2010 19:33

Ooh - DD will go up this year too.
And she'll be the only one of her current peers going to her new school.

She's not remotely nervous...but I am.

AnnaSergeyevna · 11/06/2010 19:41

kodokan just reading your post made me stress out. Having lost a year of my life to the 11+ process with my son, I couldn't even imagine the stress of two years to get him into a school that leads to university.

Mind you, these days everybody goes to university in the UK so it doesn't mean much anymore

kodokan · 11/06/2010 20:15

AnnaSergeyevna, I know, madness isn't it. I'm not sure which is worse, it all hinging on one day or having to keep the pressure on for two years.

There's a lot of talk of scrapping it to go comprehensive with setting by subject, like in the UK, but it won't happen in any timescale that I care about. Here, university is still very much seen as for the elite, the top 15% or so. (And you can only study 'proper' subjects - no Surf Studies for landlocked Switzerland.)

And during the two assessment years, the only subjects they select by are French, Maths and German; I'm hoping German's proximity to English will pull him through.

Although even then it would just mean winning the right to do another 6 years of hard slog - I'm thinking of letting him coast through the Swiss system as a middle-of-the-roader, then have him take UK A-levels as a homeschooled external candidate.

PixieOnaLeaf · 11/06/2010 22:45

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roisin · 12/06/2010 08:25

Another one with a youngest starting secondary this time. ds1 is already there and having a wonderful time (yr8) and I work in a different secondary (Academy), so I don't have many questions!

ds2 only knows 5 children going to his new school and 4 of them are girls, so he is a bit worried. But I'm sure he will be fine once he gets there and settles in.

Anna - Learning Manager is a title that covers various different roles in secondary these days.

One option is a pastoral leader, but someone who is support staff rather than a teacher. So there might be a Head of Lower School, or Head of House or Head of Year 7 (teacher roles), but then this is supported by a Learning Manager, who does much of the day-to-day, on-the-ground sorting out bits and pieces and doing the admin work. At our school these are "House Managers" and they do a superb job and actually have a lot of authority and responsibility, but are very approachable for the students.

Sometimes this title is used for a mentor-type role, where your child has a named person that they can go to to discuss any concerns or problems, but primarily to monitor their progress against targets and co-ordinate any interventions required if there isn't progress.

In other schools form tutors can be given this title - ours are "Learning Group Leaders". And in some schools TAs are called Learning Managers.

So, take your pick!

kodokan · 12/06/2010 12:00

PixieOnaLeaf - no, he could absolutely go to uni in England, or a lot of other places, tuition language permitting. As long as he gets some kind of 'I'm 18 and have uni-entry qualifications from x country', then he's good to go.

Since we stepped off the SATs, Key Stage 3, GCSEs, A-levels linear progression and started taking a cross-Europe education view, it's surprising how much fluidity there actually is to end up in the right place, eventually.

It probably helps that DH left school virtually qualificationless at 16, then went back into education aged 20 and left 6 years later with a Masters in engineering, leading to the sort of career that moved us to Switzerland.

So I'm going to try not to turn in naggy, shouty Mummy, telling my poor little 10 yr old: 'What do you mean you got a 'C' in this week's German spelling test? You'll never get into Oxbridge with grades like that!'

3plusbump · 17/06/2010 14:09

Ooh things are starting to get moving at last! We have not heard fron the school for a while so was starting to wonder whether they had forgotten him!

We've had a letter inviting DS1 to an induction day in July and another inviting us all to go in for a meeting with his tutor and Head of House on another day. Also had a letter telling us that we can apply for bus pass at the bargain price of £100 per term

Might start looking at unfirm now. Noticed M&s have their 3 for 2 on uniform at the mo so might go and get the basics from there then get the logo stuff from the school outfitters....

Anyone else started on the uniform list yet?

hippipotamiHasLost92lbs · 18/06/2010 08:14

Things are finally moving here too

The Head of Year for the new Y7 came to ds's primary school to give a talk to all the dc starting at this particular secondary school in Sept (approx 60 dc)
They gave out welcome packs with details of an open day for the dc, an evening talk for the new Y7 parents and the dreaded uniform list.
Luckily it included a 10% off voucher for the local uniform outfitters which is the only shop to sell the logo'd up items. Eek, spent over £100 and that was with only buying the bare necssities and after using the voucher [eek!]
Still have to buy black trousers, white shirts, black socks but will go to M&S for those next month.

So, it looks as if it is all definately happening and I must really take my head out of the sand.
Ds seems happy enough.

OrmRenewed · 18/06/2010 08:22

I'm doing this for the second time in September. DS~1 went up 2 years ago, DD us going this year.

It was fine! Better than fine. It was the making of DS who was bored of primary when he left. But DD is very happy where she is and not happy about the prospect at all

roisin · 18/06/2010 17:41

Big shoes for her to fill as well Orm! ds2 is a bit apprehensive that people will continually compare him with ds1, and that he will inevitably be called by ds1's name!

OrmRenewed · 18/06/2010 18:38

DD is determined to pretend DS#1 isn't anything to do with her . He's larger than life, she's quite reserved and respectable.

roisin · 18/06/2010 19:09

Ha! Great idea! But ds1 and ds2 look very alike (just like dh). People always know straight away that they're brothers.

LadyCad · 22/06/2010 16:58

It's all getting a bit close now.

DS is getting a bit nervous, he's been fine until now. I'm doing a good job of being confident and reassuring (I think) whilst inwardly pooing my pants

RatherBeOnThePiste · 22/06/2010 17:02

Had our familiarisation day today. Gulp.

AnnaSergeyevna · 22/06/2010 21:34

*Ratherbeonthepiste8 - what did they do at the familiarisation day?

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