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Year 11 - 2024/2025 - Support Thread - the final stretch

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QueenMabby · 21/03/2025 16:11

A new thread to take is to exams and beyond! All welcome.

OP posts:
NotDonna · 04/04/2025 16:57

Poisoningpigeons · 04/04/2025 13:49

There is no way I could enforce 6 hours per day Shock How are people managing to get their kids to do this?

I think the kid has to want to!
DD is doing 50 minute sessions from
9am to 430pm x7 days a week BUT we all know that can not possibly be sustained and some days a lot less will be done. It’s her timetable though. I’ve not been involved in the creation whatsoever and I’m absolutely not telling her that it’s probs not manageable. But nor will I have a go when she has time off from it. Or nag. School have provided zero info about what they should be doing.

minisnowballs · 04/04/2025 16:58

I should stress dd2 is not in any way doing six hours a day. Two would seem like a stretch. That’s just what the headteacher suggested. I’m just relieved she’s doing something!

Oblomov25 · 04/04/2025 19:40

I finally got an email from school with all info re exams, revision dates etc. some of the dates are incorrect.

I've been email arguing with HoY (who I dislike) over a triggering phone call home. Can't wait till ds2 gets to 6th form and he isn't HoY anymore, after 3 years.

NotAPersonalAttack · 05/04/2025 08:27

Think this is the first time a holiday has to be devoted to so much revision. Past exams have been a few weeks after breaks, whereas in my day they were first day back.

DD has an offer to move for 6th form...wondering if other schools have end of year exams / mocks etc...the first day back after holidays?

queenofthesuburbs · 05/04/2025 09:55

Oblomov25 · 04/04/2025 19:40

I finally got an email from school with all info re exams, revision dates etc. some of the dates are incorrect.

I've been email arguing with HoY (who I dislike) over a triggering phone call home. Can't wait till ds2 gets to 6th form and he isn't HoY anymore, after 3 years.

That terrible that the school got done of the dates wrong!!

Oblomov25 · 05/04/2025 10:11

Well I'm not SURE the dates are wrong. What do you think?
1)
"Monday 5th May - External GCSE Exams begin.

Isn't that a Bank Holiday Monday?

2)Thursday 23rd May - final assembly.

I think your'll find that the 23rd May is a Friday! Wink

newmum1976 · 05/04/2025 11:58

NotAPersonalAttack · 05/04/2025 08:27

Think this is the first time a holiday has to be devoted to so much revision. Past exams have been a few weeks after breaks, whereas in my day they were first day back.

DD has an offer to move for 6th form...wondering if other schools have end of year exams / mocks etc...the first day back after holidays?

Mocks 2 weeks before real GCSE exams start. Never heard of that before and it sounds a bit odd. How will the children have a chance to improve as I guess they won’t get the results until the real GCSE exams start?

Hollyhedge · 05/04/2025 13:05

Agh.

DS is aiming for 6 hours a day/ 100 hours. This seems brutal to me and not sure sustainable. But good on him for having the intention.

He got his third and final offer from his first choice - a highly sought after Catholic sixth form and given we are not Catholics it was a low chance. He is delighted but they want high grades so pressure is on. He is aiming to improve by one grade in four of his subjects. And at least sustain the rest. He knows this will require work. Horrible working in the sun…

Good luck 🍀 all

queenofthesuburbs · 05/04/2025 16:09

@Hollyhedge
Congratulations on your son’s sixth form offer! I’m sure having a goal makes revision a bit more palatable, but I agree it’s been glorious weather and almost a “sin” to be indoors ( as my Catholic father would have said!!)

My daughter did poetry whilst sunbathing yesterday so not sure how much was actually achieved.

What grades does he need?

NotAPersonalAttack · 05/04/2025 16:44

DD just told me that her MFL class has been mixed ability, so pupils taking Higher like her are in the same class as those taking the Foundation paper.

Not sure that's the right thing for either grouping...we were streamed back in the day.

Hollyhedge · 05/04/2025 16:47

queenofthesuburbs · 05/04/2025 16:09

@Hollyhedge
Congratulations on your son’s sixth form offer! I’m sure having a goal makes revision a bit more palatable, but I agree it’s been glorious weather and almost a “sin” to be indoors ( as my Catholic father would have said!!)

My daughter did poetry whilst sunbathing yesterday so not sure how much was actually achieved.

What grades does he need?

He needs 7s for that one. He should be ok, but needs to go up in some subjects. Also grades go up and down, so needs to be sure. He has a back up but really wants this school. Today is going ok, so that is one day 🤪🤪

queenofthesuburbs · 05/04/2025 16:51

Gosh all 7s!! That's a very tall order...

Hollyhedge · 05/04/2025 16:55

NotAPersonalAttack · 05/04/2025 16:44

DD just told me that her MFL class has been mixed ability, so pupils taking Higher like her are in the same class as those taking the Foundation paper.

Not sure that's the right thing for either grouping...we were streamed back in the day.

I think mixed ability MFL is not good. The requirements of foundation and higher are v different. There are quite a few in DS’ school who are all set for good grades but MFL low, 2-3 grades lower. The fact that a very popular sixth form is saying they will give priority access to anyone doing MFL tells you everything.

NotAPersonalAttack · 05/04/2025 17:01

I didn't know this until now. There is more than one class so I don't know why it wasn't streamed.

I know of a league topping 6th form that didn't make any offers for science to external applicants.

queenofthesuburbs · 05/04/2025 17:02

I think that not enough writing is done in MFL. Nothing really beats lots and lots of practice writing out sentences with different verbs using different tenses. Most of our homework has been online and the result is a lack of some things being second nature ( or “muscle memory”).

It needs to revert to being taught in a more old fashioned way, whilst taking the good stuff ( ie speaking) on board as well.

minisnowballs · 05/04/2025 18:42

I'm so confused by Sixth Form offers. The state sixth form where DD2 has a conditional offer (just in case) is trumpeting the fact it has made 500 accepted sixth form offers. It has 180 places as far as I'm aware. How is this going to work in practice? The oversubscription criteria are a) looked after etc b) staff children c) feeder secondaries in the federation - so not us d) distance (we are 1.3 miles away).

Genuinely no idea what happens if there's no space. The offers are conditional on grades, which DD2 will get as they aren't terribly stretching. But how will they fit everyone in if they get their grades - or will the conditional offer which is conditional on grades turn out not to be offers at all?

NotAPersonalAttack · 05/04/2025 19:00

DD's external offer is subject to (achievable for her) grades and staffing. Feels like a catch all so won't really know if she has a place until after results day.

minisnowballs · 05/04/2025 19:19

@NotAPersonalAttack doesn't say anything about DD2's being conditional on anything except her grades. Which seems mad. Maybe they are just sure they won't be oversubscribed in her subjects.

Hollyhedge · 05/04/2025 19:47

minisnowballs · 05/04/2025 18:42

I'm so confused by Sixth Form offers. The state sixth form where DD2 has a conditional offer (just in case) is trumpeting the fact it has made 500 accepted sixth form offers. It has 180 places as far as I'm aware. How is this going to work in practice? The oversubscription criteria are a) looked after etc b) staff children c) feeder secondaries in the federation - so not us d) distance (we are 1.3 miles away).

Genuinely no idea what happens if there's no space. The offers are conditional on grades, which DD2 will get as they aren't terribly stretching. But how will they fit everyone in if they get their grades - or will the conditional offer which is conditional on grades turn out not to be offers at all?

It is v confusing. Some make an offer but say no guarantee of subjects. Popular subjects fill up then you have to do something else or go elsewhere. They give you a time to go in person on results day. Same time two schools, what then 🤷🏻‍♀️

icanbewhatiwant · 05/04/2025 22:57

Gosh. All the choices for 6th forms for some of you. All mine just carried on at their secondary school. They've never wanted to look anywhere else. Almost all their friends have done the same. But with transport here, the school is the easiest option and the only place they can get to without a parent taking them, as long as they get a place on the bus (at a cost of £1,200 the year!!)

Hollyhedge · 05/04/2025 23:03

icanbewhatiwant · 05/04/2025 22:57

Gosh. All the choices for 6th forms for some of you. All mine just carried on at their secondary school. They've never wanted to look anywhere else. Almost all their friends have done the same. But with transport here, the school is the easiest option and the only place they can get to without a parent taking them, as long as they get a place on the bus (at a cost of £1,200 the year!!)

DS doesn’t have a sixth form so we had to look around!

icanbewhatiwant · 05/04/2025 23:10

@Hollyhedge in a way I'm glad we don't have to go through it all. I suppose it's nice to have a choice.

Greenbriar · 06/04/2025 01:04

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who responded to my post about DS getting a 1 in his English Language mocks, and for sharing online resources/books and your DC's experiences. English Literature has already been dropped so no more Macbeth, which is a shame as he did Malcolm's speech so well at LAMDA.

We're getting a date for an online assessment for dyslexia/other learning differences, but it'll be in May or June. Also looking to schedule a Functional Skills English Level 2 test for him in early August, for which a pass should be equivalent to a GCSE Grade 4.

@DontWheeshtMe I know it's too late to get access changes, and to be honest I don't think getting more extra time would make much difference with the block DS seems to have for English and essay writing. It will still help in the long run if it turns out there's something identifiable behind it all separate to the ADHD and ASD.

@newmum1976 and @IThinkImAMathmoMum , his school doesn't have a sixth form so he applied to three sixth forms (two private, one state) and got conditional offers from all of them. The state sixth form should take him even if he fails the English Language GCSE and he can re-sit it in November (probably with similar results).

DS has had 1:1 English tutors through the years (Years 4 and 5, and from the start of Year 11) but they haven't really made much of a dent. He's got 1 week of English at a revision school this Easter break.

@FreedomandPeace, it's a good point about checking the boards for his A levels (Chemistry, Biology, Maths with Physics as a fourth). Given his mock 8s in Chemistry, Physics and Maths, and 7 in Biology (as per pattern not doing well with answers requiring sentences, although he prefers Biology as a subject over Physics), I think he should be ok with the sixth form choices he has. They're mostly AQA (is that a lot of essays compared with Edexcel?) and OCR. At the moment we'll go with whichever one will take him, he just really has to pass English Language!

@NotDonna, at parent 1:1s his English teacher told us that the school are supposedly looking into getting a specialist educator who may be able to help with this sort of thing (he's quite engaged, participates in discussions at school but consistently has very low written output). However they've not promised anything and we haven't heard from them at all.

At the time of the November mocks, Maths was a 5 and Further Maths was a 3, so passing Further Maths seemed a more distant possibility versus Drama, especially as DS says his maths teacher is unintelligible. He has a 9 in practicals (60% of the grade) so his Drama teacher says he should pass whatever the written test result. According to her, he's so articulate and engaged in class, she couldn't really see him doing so badly with the writing. I think all his teachers — and us as parents — believed he would outgrow the aversion to writing, especially given he is otherwise bright, but now it does seem to be a much deeper problem. Anyway we just need to keep going forward. Sorry for the long post.

NotDonna · 06/04/2025 06:26

@Greenbriar it really does seem like some sort of block doesn’t it? I think you registering him for the level 2 functional skills exam is a great idea as that will give him gcse equivalent and I assume the 6th forms will then let him crack on with his A levels? Can he sit that soon? There does seem little point resitting gcse English as like you say, the grade uplift is likely to be negligible. Hopefully you can find out what’s going on. I really feel for you both!

Oblomov25 · 06/04/2025 15:29

Not at all Greenbriar, post away!

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