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Headmaster Kings Worcester

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Badgerooney · 29/08/2024 09:15

Just reported in the local paper that the Headmaster has left suddenly before the start of term? Statement from the school didn’t offer any thanks etc does anyone know what’s happened? They have appointed an interim head while recruitment for a permanent replacement is underway.

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worcestertrivia · 15/11/2024 11:05

I see Mr Doodes has a new role

foundation.hppc.co.uk/news/foundation-news/657/657-Hurst-launches-its-175th-Anniversary-bursary-appeal

Putaveston · 15/11/2024 15:14

I think King's have been remiss in their lack of transparency regarding his departure. It is not the first school he has left suddenly. I think other schools, teachers, students and parents need to know who they are employing. And I think those currently at King's deserve to know more about the situation too – it's all been brushed under the carpet and it's not good enough.

Emmanuelll · 17/11/2024 16:48

People I know are voting with their feet and moving to RGS.

worcestertrivia · 17/11/2024 16:52

Emmanuelll · 17/11/2024 16:48

People I know are voting with their feet and moving to RGS.

To be fair, their academic results are better than Kings Worcester now. Standards have slipped...

Porridgetime · 17/11/2024 18:04

Have they announced new Head at Kings? Will it be the interim?

DrWoo · 17/11/2024 20:07

‘Trust me bro’

Notenoughhoursinaday24 · 18/11/2024 11:19

Be careful how you read academic stats. GCSE results are very similar. RGS A level results will be better due to the number of children doing BTECs therefore not published. All KSW children do A levels.

Angrymum22 · 18/11/2024 22:02

worcestertrivia · 17/11/2024 16:52

To be fair, their academic results are better than Kings Worcester now. Standards have slipped...

There does appear to have been a significant improvement in grades at RGS more noticeable at A level that GCSE. Buts Kings results have just steadily improved which was Matthew Armstrong’s ( Headmaster who Doodes replaced) long term plan. Sustaining a significant improvement can put undue pressure upon on both pupils and teaching staff. KSW are just steadily improving the results in line with their longterm plan.
The introduction of BTEC s at RGS may be a factor but some years are just brighter. Looking at individual subjects though, there are 3x as many students doing further maths at KSW with 100% pass at A*. I think you have to look at individual subjects on offer and the qualification offered. KSW has been successful in Oxbridge over the last couple of years.
Ultimately, it’s what feels right for your child and from what I’ve heard it’s like Doodes never existed.
Academically the two schools have always played results ping pong. Although this year KSW will defo win the annual first team rugby clash.

Angrymum22 · 18/11/2024 22:12

Emmanuelll · 17/11/2024 16:48

People I know are voting with their feet and moving to RGS.

I’ve not heard this. More likely to be due to ultimate fees increase since RGS will still be cheaper after VAT is applied.

Emmanuelll · 19/11/2024 03:45

RGS won't be cheaper. I'm not sure how much they are going to raise their fees due to VAT but I do know that they don't have the same ability to award scholarships and bursaries as Kings do and their incomings and outgoings were fairly tight, historically. If anything the opposite is true for now, since Kings have pledged not to put their fees up for at least a year or two.

Emmanuelll · 19/11/2024 03:56

I've just looked at both school's fee structures. Kings will be £6325 per term for years 7-12 and they say they have factored VAT into this, with school fees not rising by more than 10% in the future, whilst RGS will be £6994 per term once VAT is applied for years 7-12. RGS has had to pass on the full 20% to parents, it appears. This doesn't surprise me since Kings has more scope to help absorb the impact.

OneDaringPeachMember · 19/11/2024 04:33

As a parent that had the Doodes cartel continuously ignore parents concerns I can only say that for all the children now flourishing elsewhere - amen. I was told a bunch of ridiculous untruths about my child which I challenged every year. They are now everything they said they wouldnt be in another school - happy, top of sport, music and academia. But most importantly confident and finally believing in themselves. Regardless of school you want a headmaster that listens to your legitimate concerns when you know something isn’t right - not ignoring it because you dare to question a school that clearly was failing under a narcissistic, lazy head

Angrymum22 · 19/11/2024 21:35

Emmanuelll · 19/11/2024 03:56

I've just looked at both school's fee structures. Kings will be £6325 per term for years 7-12 and they say they have factored VAT into this, with school fees not rising by more than 10% in the future, whilst RGS will be £6994 per term once VAT is applied for years 7-12. RGS has had to pass on the full 20% to parents, it appears. This doesn't surprise me since Kings has more scope to help absorb the impact.

That’s interesting. DC finished before the VAT situation., although we may face increases in uni fees. Our experience of Doodes was limited since he wasn’t allowed near the 6th form, the pupils took an instant dislike which I suppose was a bit of a red flag. I’m sure like many such institutions will recover and the current situation will eventually be a distant memory.

Putaveston · 19/11/2024 22:12

Is anybody any the wiser about the reason for his sudden departure?

Vestibular · 19/11/2024 22:31

Putaveston · 19/11/2024 22:12

Is anybody any the wiser about the reason for his sudden departure?

There's a thread on Reddit which is... illuminating

Angrymum22 · 20/11/2024 03:46

I think that the consensus is that he has not learned anything from his experience at any of the schools. It is a shame that he has been unleashed on yet another educational establishment.
Maybe posts like these will attract the attention of parents doing a little due diligence. I know I did a Google search when he started at Kings, but none of his previous activities came to light. This sort of problem exists across all types of schools, it is a shame that there is a lack of transparency. It is difficult to distinguish between witch hunts and genuine concerns, but unfortunately vital information is suppressed to save embarrassment. As an employer I have been caught out by inaccurate references in the past. Institutions should be able to take action when relevant information is withheld. I can understand that scandal is frequently suppressed to protect innocent parties ( in this case his children) but sooner or later they will discover the truth.

Thosearentyours · 21/11/2024 11:31

Leaving King's Worcester was the best move we made. We now have happy thriving children.

worcestertrivia · 21/11/2024 14:44

DrWoo · 04/09/2024 11:59

Honestly I can’t quite understand why it needs to be so cloak-and-dagger. What’s he done?

Did you ever find out what happened to Doodes?

DrWoo · 21/11/2024 15:58

worcestertrivia · 21/11/2024 14:44

Did you ever find out what happened to Doodes?

Have a look at Reddit

Putaveston · 26/11/2024 09:08

in reply to an earlier post, I believe there is just the one governor with children at the school.

Angrymum22 · 28/11/2024 16:08

Thosearentyours · 21/11/2024 11:31

Leaving King's Worcester was the best move we made. We now have happy thriving children.

Like every other school one size doesn’t fit all. If your children are sporty,
they provide a good spread of sports, it’s great. If your children are bright they will thrive. One of the big mistakes people make is to push children academically to pass the entrance exam which can result in a stressful experience. Children are accelerated and it does leave some behind.
DS sailed through his entrance exam and to be frank I waited for the problems I’d heard about from some parents, too much homework, emails from staff, advice to attend extra sessions etc, but it never happened.

There was bullying and poor behaviour but no more than any other school and possibly of a different nature.

I certainly don’t look back and remember problems. We breezed through parents evenings. Although DS didn’t always make the top teams in sport he thrived in that side.

DS’s year was a good year socially and there were very few incidents of bullying. They very much looked after each other and DS made some close friendships he still enjoys, despite moving to uni. He also had/has some close friendships who attended RGS. There was rivalry but very friendly associated with sports.

I did experience the parents who felt that because they were paying, they had far more influence than they should have. You are paying for the education not to be able to micromanage the school. This is made clear in the contract you sign. If you don’t read it and the policies (many) that accompany it then you may be disappointed.
You cannot make the experience bespoke.

However, incidents like this show that things go wrong. I think that Doodes would have not lasted as long as he did had he not started just as Covid hit. His behaviour and personality would have emerged far early to both staff and parents if the school had been running normally. In this case the governors may have been able to get rid of him during his probationary period. Certainly 18mnths into his tenure the complaints were flowing. I don’t remember the environment being toxic initially, but he was starting to ruffle feathers by the time DS was leaving. I don’t think it had fully filtered down.

For anyone looking at the school, do your due diligence. Talk to current pupils and parents. We chose it because the pupils we knew were well rounded, polite children with confidence but not arrogant. The school is still producing the same sort of individuals. My DS’s friends are testament to this. It is more than just the education.

Emmanuelll · 28/11/2024 16:37

My daughter has a friend whose parents moved him out of KSA reception class because a year 2 boy was bullying him - ie, pushing him around and calling him names. When his parents reported this to the school, they refused to do anything about it and even told his parents that he needs to toughen up(!)

I am left wondering what on earth is going on at this school. People aren't willing to pay out thousands of pounds of their hard-earned money for customer care like the above.

worcestertrivia · 29/11/2024 11:24

Emmanuelll · 28/11/2024 16:37

My daughter has a friend whose parents moved him out of KSA reception class because a year 2 boy was bullying him - ie, pushing him around and calling him names. When his parents reported this to the school, they refused to do anything about it and even told his parents that he needs to toughen up(!)

I am left wondering what on earth is going on at this school. People aren't willing to pay out thousands of pounds of their hard-earned money for customer care like the above.

The ISI inspection report could produce some interesting results. Frustrated parents finally having a voice....

Porridgetime · 30/11/2024 08:43

Have they announced the new head at Kings yet?

Angrymum22 · 07/12/2024 12:43

New head has been announced.

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