Y11 2023/24 thread 5 - results!

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New thread as no 4 is nearly full

I didn't know that the English Lang oral result will be on the results slip.

DD just finished Y10 and told me the oral doesn't count towards the grade and everyone passes if they turn up!

When will we find out if she got a Pass, Merit or Distinction? On results day or at some point during Year 11?

@hoxtonbabe it should be on the sheet you got from school. Ours had columns - exam board, subject, grade, mark.

You can look up the grade boundaries and see how close to the next grade boundary the mark was.

For example a student could get a 6, the mark could be 125 and the grade boundary could mean that 126 is a 7. So the student was one mark off a 7.

@HammerTimeNC
Nah ignore me! It was definitely in year 10 and they get pass, merit or distinction.

Before the marks go to the board, provisionally. Then on the results slip.

From the Education Data Lab

The pass rate in English and maths is down… but only if you include entries from older pupils
If we look at entries from all students in England, there is a fall in the proportion of entries grades 4 or above in both English language and maths. In English language, the rate is down from 64.2% to 61.6%, and in maths from 61.0% to 59.6%.
This might seem alarming at first glance, but the large fall in English language rates is largely driven by an increase in resits (of which more below). The rates for 16 year olds are much more similar to last year: 71.6% vs 71.2% in English language and 72.3% vs 72% in maths. For entries from pupils aged 17 and older, the proportion achieving a grade 4 or above has dropped fairly dramatically in English language: from 25.9% last year to 20.9% this year.

@MrsHamlet roughly when do the results go to the board?

By May 15th or 5th. One of those.

And the candidate should actually get all NEA marks before that in order to comply with the requirement for centres to allow candidates to ask for them to be reviewed if they believe that the proper process hasn't been followed.

Based on our experience I would always recommend a review for any obvious outliers/anomalies - my dd got all 8s/9s except English language which was a 5. Her teacher thought it looked odd and the school sent the script off for a review. It turned out that an entire question had not been marked and her grade went up to a 7.

As a parent, I received zero communication from the school about the speaking exam. I would have liked to have known it will be on her result slip, and I assume her certificate.

Do other schools communicate to parents about the speaking exam?

Does anyone know if there's a support thread like this one for students just about to enter Yr 10?

@posieandperkin a simple search shows this Year 10 2024/2025 - come and join! www.mumsnet.com/Talk/secondary/5145504-year-10-20242025-come-and-join

I can't remember if the school did. I do remember my DC talking about it, practising for it, and having a good moan about it 😂

At DS' school the speaking element wasn't an exam. They did it in class with no prep in year 9.

Thank you for the information.

My son got his sent via his school email it literally just says the subject and grade nothing more… the school sent a generic letter setting out to contact the head of year etc if you want to recheck/remark but it would be good to have something like what you had with the columns etc.

I guess I will have to pester them
on Tuesday.

That's crazy @hoxtonbabe how is anyone supposed to know if a review is worth it, if they can't see how close the marks are. It could be close to the next grade down and a review could be bad news!

I didn’t even think of it the other way as in downwards 🤣 but exactly, how can you ask for something you don’t know if it’s worth asking for because the information needed to make that decision isn’t available🙄.

I know his food and nutrition was 3 marks away from a B and he’s always been good at that so I will definitely look into that one,

Im going to ask one of the heads on Tuesday if they have something like you described with the column, etc

That's so wonderful @WillimNot . Well done to your boy. Good schools and teachers can be literally life changing.

@Soccermum13 the first thing family member said was "they might not have marked a question" but I thought that highly unlikely. However given your story it is obviously possible...

I don’t remember hearing from school about it directly but DD talked about it, what her topic should be, when her time slot was, practised a bit at home etc. so we were very much aware of it happening.

We had a letter about it from the school explaining that the students would be doing this as a part of the exam but that it would have no effect on their eventual grade from the written papers - it seemed to be something that was compulsory to do as a tick-box thing only.

The speaking assessment is compulsory. As with all NEA, marks should have been shared with the candidate before submission to the board.

But it's an endorsement on the certificate, not a qualification. And it doesn't contribute to the qualification.

Worth noting for any parents in NI, that for CCEA board, the speaking and listening component of English Lang most definitely does count towards your final grade.

There are 4 units for CCEA - Units 1&4 are exams, worth 30% each. Unit 2 is Speaking & Listening and they do 3 tasks (individual speech, role play and discussion group) with the combined score being worth 20% of the overall grade. Unit 3 is Controlled Assessment - 2 tasks - one is analysing a piece of written work (DD did Of Mice and Men), and the other is analysing spoken word - they have to listen to two speeches and then answer a question on them. This unit is also work 20%

@FerminRomeroDeTorres apologies - I stand corrected. I miss the days when we did it because it was a useful skill and it counted.

No apology needed - I didn’t realise it didn’t count in English boards until last year when my nephew was doing his and he was rather miffed as he’d put quite a lot of work into it, and was a natural communicator and felt like it wasn’t worth the effort. I agree that it’s a really important skill and like that CCEA still values it

I spent no more than two weeks on it from start to end this year, and that felt like too much.