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Grammar schools to be means tested for free places

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dera35 · 25/06/2024 15:16

Are admissions to Grammar schools going to be means tested for free places ? I.e Children from affluent families will pay fees ?

I can understand if it goes that way because there is lots of independent research that points to Grammar schools being dominated by affluent families and especially using expensive private tuition for entrance tests.

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stilllovebeetroot · 25/06/2024 15:17

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Howcanichange · 25/06/2024 15:18

I don't understand? Its free anyway?

dera35 · 25/06/2024 15:24

If it is means tested then will children who don ‘t qualify for free places have to pay fees ?

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stilllovebeetroot · 25/06/2024 15:25

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noblegiraffe · 25/06/2024 15:25

No. On no planet is this going to happen.

Needmorelego · 25/06/2024 15:25

That's how it was before 1944.
Why do you think it would go back to that system?

TeenDivided · 25/06/2024 15:25

State grammars are free.

Some private schools gave 'grammar' in their name.

Which are you trying to talk about?

dera35 · 25/06/2024 15:26

You didn’t read the post . I asked a question, not stating anything. Parents at the school were discussing it and I had not seen anything in press , hence my question

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skippy67 · 25/06/2024 15:26

What are you on about?

Needmorelego · 25/06/2024 15:28

So is this your idea or the other parents ideas and you are wondering if it's a good thing or not?
As I said - pre the 1944 Education Act this was the system pretty much.
But it's a long time since '44.

EarthlyNightshade · 25/06/2024 15:29

No

stilllovebeetroot · 25/06/2024 15:29

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 25/06/2024 15:30

What? No.

Some grammar schools have admissions categories that can increase accessibility for children on FSM/Pupil Premium with wording such as 'candidates in receipt of income related free school meals or those who are registered as Pupil Premium at their Primary School are eligible to achieve up to 20% less than the standardised pass mark', which tries to compensate for the pointy elbows, private tutors and practice tests the wealthy can access easily - so they might not get quite as high a mark or get as high but are more likely to be offered a place.

But no, nobody's introducing fees for state funded education.

Begsthequestion · 25/06/2024 15:31

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Why did you feel the need to post that?

Savemysweets · 25/06/2024 15:31

Perhaps if they means test for all state schools, unlikely though!

dera35 · 25/06/2024 15:31

Beetroot , simple answer could be ‘ have not seen anything in press’ . No need to be so twitchy .. chill

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Savemysweets · 25/06/2024 15:31

Is this to do with VAT on PE, it’s been quiet lately!

stilllovebeetroot · 25/06/2024 15:32

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Begsthequestion · 25/06/2024 15:32

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Then do something else? This isn't aibu

stilllovebeetroot · 25/06/2024 15:33

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Needmorelego · 25/06/2024 15:38

@dera35 it might have been better to ask "has anyone heard about this plan because other parents at school were talking about it" - rather than saying it like it was a fact.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 25/06/2024 15:40

Just because some parents have invented a fictional thing to talk shit about doesn't mean you have to give any credence to what they say. Do you always believe everything some randomer tells you?

Think about it objectively, apply a bit of scepticism. Have you seen anything, anything at all, from a reputable source to indicate that this might happen? Is there any legal basis for it to happen? Are any of the main political parties currently campaigning about this policy?

No. No. And no.

So why would you give such insane fantasies headspace, to the point of posting on social media about them?

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 25/06/2024 15:42

Needmorelego · 25/06/2024 15:38

@dera35 it might have been better to ask "has anyone heard about this plan because other parents at school were talking about it" - rather than saying it like it was a fact.

This sort of thing is self perpetuating. I can guarantee that there will be some readers of this thread who wil now repeat this made-up nonsense to their social circle, saying, "I saw on MN that people are saying this will happen...".

This is how nonsense theories get spread.

Needmorelego · 25/06/2024 15:43

@TarantinoIsAMisogynist so true 😂

Begsthequestion · 25/06/2024 15:43

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No, just someone who doesn't understand why you need to be so rude to people

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