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Dd moved schools, in wrong sets

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Norpeth · 07/04/2024 07:29

We recently moved house and Dd (year 8) moved schools.

After a few weeks of being at her new school, we've realised DD has been put in the lowest sets (out of 6) for every subject that is ranked by ability. Now DD isn't a child genius but I'd have expected her to have at least been in sets 2/3, probably even 1 for English.

On top of this, the behaviour and disruption in her classes is unbelievable. She says most of the lesson is spent telling off students, warnings being written out and kids being sent out ect. There are chairs being thrown ect. The kids talk through the lessons and most of her lessons are being taught by supply teachers who just give out a work sheet and aren't bothered if the work is done or not. A few of the teachers have even commented that she is the only one who does the work. The higher sets only get occasional supply teachers. At the moment, her class does not have a proper maths or language teacher.

Anyway, I spoke to her head of year who confirmed most of this (including that kids in her classes aren't interested in learning and the behaviour is awful, which I actually found quite concerning about how he spoke about these kids. He has clearly given up on them!)

He went and spoke to her teachers and called me back saying every teacher he spoke to said she needed to be in much higher sets. I asked when I could expect her to be moved and he said hopefully by September but there's no room in the higher sets so he didn't really know.

Can I insist on having her moved? I don't know where to go from here. I'm considering telling him I will homeschool until a space in the higher sets becomes available.

Dds English teacher spoke to dd after this and told her she needed to be in her higher sets and would enjoy it more as more work gets done and there is much less 'silliness'.

Has anyone else had similar? Thank you!

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Hopebridge · 15/04/2024 13:46

I wonder why some schools do mixed ability in year 7 and others stream. If some feel it is so detrimental. They must have reasoning for this approach. In Primary it's a whole class approach with some break off learning?

I do hope they sort out the lessons if you ask the school they should be able to provide support for home and online learning.

remembe · 15/04/2024 19:05

Hopebridge · 15/04/2024 13:46

I wonder why some schools do mixed ability in year 7 and others stream. If some feel it is so detrimental. They must have reasoning for this approach. In Primary it's a whole class approach with some break off learning?

I do hope they sort out the lessons if you ask the school they should be able to provide support for home and online learning.

A lot of primaries do set. My child is in sets for phonics, English and maths in Y1! It is only possible in bigger schools with more than one class per year though. Research shows for the majority not setting is better. I believe high ability children benefit most from setting, from memory.

Norpeth · 16/04/2024 10:38

Thank you everyone so much for all your advice. I've left a message with school shopping someone calls me back soon and I'll update. I've actually made a new post. I'll copy and paste it here too, if any of you could take a look? Possibly a solution to the problem.

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Norpeth · 16/04/2024 10:40

I'll try and make this as easy to understand as possible re DD year 8.

Old house was in an area where we had first, middle and high school. High school starts year 9. (DD due to start year 9 this September) Applied for high school and offered a place in outstanding feeder high school.

Moved house recently. This area is normal primary, secondary. DD moved schools from year 8 middle school, to year 8 secondary school. School is awful.

We are out of catchment and no longer attend the feeder school but I've noticed on the council portal that it's still showing as 'place offered' for outstanding high school.

Do you think there's any chance she will still be able to attend the high school in September?

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