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Where in London is the best place to live for grammar options (boys and girls) and good state school fall back options.

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TuttleTree · 21/09/2023 21:43

Please help! We are house hunting and torn between London and Chelmsford. Ideally, we would like to stay in London for work, travel, culture, things going on. Etc etc all the usual. However fully aware that as kids are involved we have to prioritise in the right way.

We live in East London at the moment and have great grammar options but not good state options. Feel like with Chelmsford there might be some good state back ups there? But before we do anything drastic and leave the big smoke, wondering where else in London we could go that have the option of both.

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ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:01

They have not put a green spot for every single kid. It is heatmap, a cluster. And as I said, last year it was smalles cacthment due to the birth peak in 2012. This year could be smaller. This is the only area where Orlean, Waldergrave and Turing as well as Grey Coat overlaps or maybe tiny bit more to the south but not further than 1 km from Orlean and close to the river for Grey

soopadoopa · 25/09/2023 21:09

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 20:58

@soopadoopa since when TW11 is TW12?? I am talking about Hampton and Hampton Hill. Only last year maybe as I haven't checked. Since year 3 I observe schools in TW12 destinations and spoke to parents, teachers etc.

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Keep your hair on. I was talking about SMSP, which is in TW11, but near the border with TW12, so some of its students live in TW12. I don't know if the girls that transferred to Tiffin live in TW12.

But Hampton Juniors is in TW12 and transferred 2 to Tiffin Girls this year: https://www.hpp.school/junior-school/about-us/admissions. Obviously I don't know if those children live in TW12 either. Some children go to schools in their own postal area, and some don't.

soopadoopa · 25/09/2023 21:15

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:01

They have not put a green spot for every single kid. It is heatmap, a cluster. And as I said, last year it was smalles cacthment due to the birth peak in 2012. This year could be smaller. This is the only area where Orlean, Waldergrave and Turing as well as Grey Coat overlaps or maybe tiny bit more to the south but not further than 1 km from Orlean and close to the river for Grey

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No, each green marker is a postcode from where at least one child got a place. Each yellow marker is a postcode where at least one child is on the waiting list. The key at top left explains it.

There aren't any spots in Marble Hill, probably because they all went to Orleans Park. If they'd tried to go to Turing they'd be a yellow marker not a green one, because they're further away than some of the other yellow markers.

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:15

@soopadoopa I alresdy said that the two girls is an amazing information and it must be only this year.
...and I have never spoken about Teddington but always here about Hampton and Hampton Hill TW12 where I happen to live for the last 20 + years

soopadoopa · 25/09/2023 21:19

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:15

@soopadoopa I alresdy said that the two girls is an amazing information and it must be only this year.
...and I have never spoken about Teddington but always here about Hampton and Hampton Hill TW12 where I happen to live for the last 20 + years

A lot of TW12 children go to Stanley Primary too. That's in TW11. Not sure why you are so concerned about the school postcode when its the home address that matters for admissions. But each to their own.

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:20

@soopadoopa

>No, each green marker is a postcode from where at least one child got a place

Do you understand how the heatmap works? Do you think the kids live on the top of each other? In my location older siblings got in and there is nothing in that place. Far around us are green dots but not in my spot and there are few kids living here. This is because it is not that densly populated with kids that went to Turing that year. If they put on the map one dot if there is at leat one kid then the map would reveal personal data where lives somebody accepted ( GDPR) and also would be illegible in dot. There are far far more kids than dots

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:25

@soopadoopa because I was talking about TW12 Hampton and Hampton Hill schools and never mentioned anything about Stanley school or Teddington schools 🙄.
i am not concerned, I am clarifying what I was talking about. I don't have a girl to be concerned about Tiffin girls even. Turing is not on my list as no 2 even 🙄. This is nothing personal but about the place where OP could move in to get in catchment into a few schools at the same time and have a great choice

soopadoopa · 25/09/2023 21:27

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:20

@soopadoopa

>No, each green marker is a postcode from where at least one child got a place

Do you understand how the heatmap works? Do you think the kids live on the top of each other? In my location older siblings got in and there is nothing in that place. Far around us are green dots but not in my spot and there are few kids living here. This is because it is not that densly populated with kids that went to Turing that year. If they put on the map one dot if there is at leat one kid then the map would reveal personal data where lives somebody accepted ( GDPR) and also would be illegible in dot. There are far far more kids than dots

It's not a heat map! Read the key. It shows distance admissions. If you know children from Marble Hill who got in this year they must have been in one of the higher priority categories like siblings, EHCP, Looked after Children, etc.

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:31

@soopadoopa if that is not the heatmap, where are dots for two kids from my street who were accepted there? Hm? No they were not higher priority. No, I don't live in Marble Hill. i live in Hampton Hill. I said Marble Hill as a good location for all catchments....or Strawberry Hill would be even better.

Distance admission is not contradictory to the fact that the acceptance shows heat map and not every single location of the accepted kids. There is less green dots than applicants

soopadoopa · 25/09/2023 21:37

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:31

@soopadoopa if that is not the heatmap, where are dots for two kids from my street who were accepted there? Hm? No they were not higher priority. No, I don't live in Marble Hill. i live in Hampton Hill. I said Marble Hill as a good location for all catchments....or Strawberry Hill would be even better.

Distance admission is not contradictory to the fact that the acceptance shows heat map and not every single location of the accepted kids. There is less green dots than applicants

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If you plot your postcode on Google maps it appears in the centre of the postcode, not on top of your house. If there are 2 kids from the same postcode, there will be just one dot at the centre of the postcode.

If you still can't find it, perhaps they got in via one of the non-distance categories.

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:54

@soopadoopa

There are 3 postcodes on my street. Meaning the very end is different. These are kids that I know, they are not looked after and they are not EHCP. One has an eldest sis in the school ( sibling).

soopadoopa · 25/09/2023 22:07

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 21:54

@soopadoopa

There are 3 postcodes on my street. Meaning the very end is different. These are kids that I know, they are not looked after and they are not EHCP. One has an eldest sis in the school ( sibling).

Are you sure you live in Marble Hill, not Strawberry Hill? There were clearly no distance admissions from Marble Hill.

soopadoopa · 25/09/2023 22:10

Ah, I see from one of your posts you live in Hampton Hill. There are plenty of admissions from there.

soopadoopa · 25/09/2023 22:13

The sibling won't be on the map, but if the other kids you know were distance admissions, their postcode marker will be on the map. Try plotting their postcode on Google maps to see where it appears. The map is low resolution so difficult to makebout individual streets.

ThingsWillWorkOut · 25/09/2023 22:30

soopadoopa · 25/09/2023 22:10

Ah, I see from one of your posts you live in Hampton Hill. There are plenty of admissions from there.

....that is what I said .....

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