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Giving a fraudulent address for secondary school place

149 replies

Claireeo · 01/08/2023 19:02

Hi, I just want to hear others experiences or thoughts on this please.
My daughter hasn’t been given her 1st choice school. She is 1st on the waiting list. One of the parents has given a false address to be in catchment. I know she has lied as we followed her home on the school run several times. She’s lives further than us to 1st choice school.I have also done a land registry check on the house and it’s still in her name. She has said she split up with her husband and has now moved back all in the space of 6 months. If she has moved back should that address be used? Is it something that should be reported? Also another thing-pan is 270 and they also let some in on appeal. They have told me that the student number is currently 270 but shouldn’t it have gone up due to successful appeals? Any help is appreciated. Many thanks

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TwirlBar · 02/08/2023 10:59

You said the mother recently moved....could child be using dad's address?
There may be other reasons she is higher up the admissions list too.

TakenRoot · 02/08/2023 11:01

Stop contacting the LA every day.

Ariela · 02/08/2023 12:21

Given it's only just August and your child is top of the waiting list, there's still a fairly high likelihood of her getting a place.

ladyvivienne · 02/08/2023 15:25

Not at all! But given I live out of catchment I will have to take my chances - the way this mother should. If you want to guarantee your place, live in catchment.

The OP is making herself look deranged by harassing the LA. I wouldn't offer her a place based on that alone - oops, pressed the wrong button, gone to the next child down. LEAVE the LA alone and let them get on with their job!

Iwasafool · 02/08/2023 15:53

Claireeo · 02/08/2023 09:48

Read the post- her route is exactly the same as mine, in the opposite direction of school in question.

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So if you were driving home and were behind her and saw where she lives doesn't that mean you live further away from the school than she does?

entitledparents · 02/08/2023 23:16

Report. I know two people who have blatantly put on false address's / circumstances. I've emailed the admissions team. Both are wealthy families who can rent extra properties and pretend someone lives there. Both are being openly talked about in the community as everyone knows no LAC or ECHP

entitledparents · 02/08/2023 23:29

Before people try shooting me down.. think housing estate / village where all the kids walk to school & are in an out of houses and have known DC since babies. 95% of the DC go to good big state school. Two families have DC1 going to a v popular school that they are 0.5 mile too far away to get in. Loads nearer can't get in

Whippetlovely · 02/08/2023 23:29

To be honest op your behaviour sound a bit nuts. Wait it out like every other parent on the list.

Xmasbaby11 · 02/08/2023 23:30

I mean, people do this a lot. I honestly thought my friends were very moral but two of them gained secondary places by unfair means - one by using a relative's address, and another by renting a flat in the catchment short term. They told me this openly and didn't think there was anything wrong as it was the best school for their child. I was shocked, probably naively as I had read about it on here.

3 years later, the children are still at the school so they got away with it.

In my case, it wasn't a school I wanted my dc to go to (other side of city) so didn't affect me directly, but it felt unfair that someone nearer missed out on a place. Yes I agree parents should be honest.

MargaretThursday · 02/08/2023 23:44

Iwasafool · 02/08/2023 15:53

So if you were driving home and were behind her and saw where she lives doesn't that mean you live further away from the school than she does?

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I'd assume she meant that she followed them as far as her house, and they continued on past.

entitledparents · 03/08/2023 07:40

@Xmasbaby11 In my case it's not close friends but it's seriously not people I would have expected to do it.
Maybe that's also why so many people are discussing it as people are astounded they've done it and even more that they've got away with it

flutterby1 · 03/08/2023 07:57

REPORT. If you're wrong ,you're wrong. It's okay to report if you have suspicions and let the LA investigate. There is no come-back. Just reporting your concerns in the interest of fairness .

Iwasafool · 03/08/2023 10:28

flutterby1 · 03/08/2023 07:57

REPORT. If you're wrong ,you're wrong. It's okay to report if you have suspicions and let the LA investigate. There is no come-back. Just reporting your concerns in the interest of fairness .

The comeback from a false allegation can be a distressed child and worried parent having to prove they haven't split up from their partner and moved to get a school place but for their own safety in an abusive relationship because that's just what you need at that point.

I think there should be comeback for people making false allegations.

Screwballs · 03/08/2023 10:30

Do you usually make a habit of extracting revenge on children when you dont get your own way?

flutterby1 · 03/08/2023 10:31

A bit dramatic, do you think this is the case OP? probably not. I'd say talk to LA , they can then advise.

Iwasafool · 03/08/2023 10:31

MargaretThursday · 02/08/2023 23:44

I'd assume she meant that she followed them as far as her house, and they continued on past.

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How would she know where they were going? They could be going to visit friends, pick up gran, go to a club, go shopping, dental appointment, lots of places they could be going to. They could even be going to their old home to collect things, I did that many times when I split with my exhusband.

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 03/08/2023 11:04

The comeback from a false allegation can be a distressed child

Why would the child need to know anything about it? If the report is unfounded, parents and LA sort it out, no need for the child to be involved at all.

viques · 03/08/2023 11:08

Children admitted following appeals are admitted above PAN. Their inclusion does not alter the published PAN for the school.

Iwasafool · 03/08/2023 11:45

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 03/08/2023 11:04

The comeback from a false allegation can be a distressed child

Why would the child need to know anything about it? If the report is unfounded, parents and LA sort it out, no need for the child to be involved at all.

He was told at school, don't know why but he was asked where he was living and who with. I was furious, he was going through difficult things and it was just spite, I'm pretty sure who it was and her child didn't get into the same school, his mum had always resented her son not getting picked for things like football team and mine did so I think the school thing was just an opportunity for her to get at us.

I worked fulltime so wasn't normally at school for pick up but one day I was and this mum and her friend came over and had a go at me because my son was picked to swim in a gala and wanted to know why. I suggested she asked the teacher who picked him because I didn't know. I assumed it was because he was a good swimmer but I thought suggesting that wouldn't go down well.

TheShorestAnswerIsDoing · 03/08/2023 14:29

Screwballs · 03/08/2023 10:30

Do you usually make a habit of extracting revenge on children when you dont get your own way?

Exactly.

entitledparents · 04/08/2023 00:27

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 03/08/2023 11:04

The comeback from a false allegation can be a distressed child

Why would the child need to know anything about it? If the report is unfounded, parents and LA sort it out, no need for the child to be involved at all.

Agreed

entitledparents · 04/08/2023 00:31

@Iwasafool I sympathise but for every genuine case like yours there are fake ones.

Katiebaby13 · 04/08/2023 00:35

If you followed her home but then say it's the same way as you, wouldn't that mean you are also outside of the catchment area?

Groovy48592747 · 04/08/2023 03:20

With our school, they only took people from Appeal, not off the waiting list. So unless you were on the waiting list and won the appeal too, wouldn't have got a place.

I was surprised that happened, but that's what they did.

drspouse · 04/08/2023 03:30

Katiebaby13 · 04/08/2023 00:35

If you followed her home but then say it's the same way as you, wouldn't that mean you are also outside of the catchment area?

Not if the other family turns off road A onto road B and the OP lives on the corner of A and B, but B only goes to a much further residential area.

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