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Secondary admission appeal help please

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Parentingfrontline · 20/03/2023 09:49

Having a difficult time as we’ve been allocated our 4th choice secondary. DS is smart (greater depth across the board) but sensitive & very anxious about going there - for valid reasons - as are we. While we try to sell him on the allocated school I’m quietly scrambling to appeal for our 1st choice (hugely oversubscribed).

Really hoping for input from people with appeal experience - stressful, uncharted territory for us.

We have 4 main questions.

  1. Is academic provision really an appeal-worthy argument?
  1. Is our child’s fear and anxiety over behaviour at the allocated school something we can mention, given we can’t be too negative towards the allocated school?
  1. Is the fact that the preferred school has streaming (and the allocated school doesn’t) grounds for appeal?
  1. Is a headteacher’s letter acceptable evidence when there’s been no third party / agency contact?

Headteacher is supportive and will write in support of our appeal on:

Wellbeing
DS on record for anxiety experienced historically at school, which required pastoral support. We support at home and it’s improved over time & with the (mostly) safe/ supportive environment he gets at primary school. So no 3rd party / agency evidence apart from school records. The school we’re appealing for has excellent pastoral care.
We’ve also had an awful family bereavement in last six months, again requiring strong pastoral provision at secondary.

Academic provision
DS is history obsessed and our first choice has a great history dept plus History Club.

Is it worth showing his work & free time research to support this?
There are other academic opportunities at the sch we’re appealing for, for children who excel - would be a great fit - but I feel mentioning at appeal may not come off well (don’t want to seem presumptuous!) How cautious should I be?

Behaviour expectations
A calm environment with clear behaviour boundaries such as the school we’re appealing for is necessary for him to feel safe and learn. DS has a clear sense of right and wrong and struggles with the chaos of a “relaxed” approach to discipline as taken by the allocated school.
Evidence- I have emails sent to school about DS’s discomfort when faced with disruption / behaviour issues (thankfully few at our primary). Hope this is the kind of thing that carries weight?

I know we can’t be negative about the allocated school but one of the reasons we’re appealing is DS’s fear of what he knows happened there (unfortunately he knows about a stabbing incident, has witnessed inappropriate behaviour from pupils’ of allocated school and is frightened). Unsure whether to mention at all?

Streaming
He’s spent most of his primary career partnering with children in his class with little English or additional learning needs — has great empathy and social awareness but frustrated after 6 years as now desperately wants to learn at his own level without having to help the teachers teach. The school we’re appealing for does rigorous setting. The allocated school no setting at all, with a huge spectrum of abilities (biggest school in the area).

Im guessing streaming vs no streaming won’t carry weight as an argument, as all schools should cater for able learners?

Thanks for helping.

OP posts:
PanelChair · 05/05/2023 12:10

Well done!

Lougle · 05/05/2023 12:19

Great news!

Iger01 · 05/05/2023 12:29

Thanks and best of luck to those still in the thick of it- Hope you fight the good fight x

HighHeelsHurt · 05/05/2023 12:32

@Iger01 I have been a silent lurker of this thread but throughly delighted to hear you won! It's my turn next week- urgh. Well done to your son and amazing mum to fight for him - the appeal process isn't an easy one x

prh47bridge · 05/05/2023 12:50

Well done

SuperSue77 · 05/05/2023 13:59

Congratulations! So pleased for you. I have just received my pack today (got an e-mail to say it had been posted but we haven’t received it so they e-mailed me a copy!)

Iger01 · 05/05/2023 20:21

Thanks so much, all. From my very limited experience, I saw a lot of emotion at the appeal. One guy (grandad) tried to tear strips off the head and DH and wouldn't let them answer. The panel chair wasn't impressed and his points were somewhat buried. I tried to make rational and irrefutable points, but was honest about the impact on my son using facts and candid reflection; not hyperbole. I didn't try and catch them out. I let them know what their duties were under the public sector equality duty and asked them how they discharged it in appeals and admissions. I think it's what swung it. I believe only 7% of appeals were successful in our county, so I hope this is of use to someone.

Rae247 · 06/05/2023 08:03

Iger01 · 05/05/2023 20:21

Thanks so much, all. From my very limited experience, I saw a lot of emotion at the appeal. One guy (grandad) tried to tear strips off the head and DH and wouldn't let them answer. The panel chair wasn't impressed and his points were somewhat buried. I tried to make rational and irrefutable points, but was honest about the impact on my son using facts and candid reflection; not hyperbole. I didn't try and catch them out. I let them know what their duties were under the public sector equality duty and asked them how they discharged it in appeals and admissions. I think it's what swung it. I believe only 7% of appeals were successful in our county, so I hope this is of use to someone.

Congratulations to your DC & well done to you!! Really pleased for you & I know from my own experience how difficult it must have been and how much emotional has gone into this. So glad it worked out for you! We have ours next Friday and I’m so scared but want to get it over and done with and get the answer as we have been in limbo for so long and it has been awful. Really hope we have a successful outcome. Need to remain calm and try not to let emotions take over 🙏🏽

Rae247 · 06/05/2023 08:03

SuperSue77 · 05/05/2023 13:59

Congratulations! So pleased for you. I have just received my pack today (got an e-mail to say it had been posted but we haven’t received it so they e-mailed me a copy!)

How is the schools case looking? When is your appeal?

SuperSue77 · 06/05/2023 11:16

Our appeal is in 2 weeks, I don’t feel the school case is that strong, but that is a very inexperienced view! I know there are 21 other appeals being heard, and that in the past few years they have upheld 3-4 appeals, but that could include in-year appeals. It may be that there are more appeals this year as they removed the exceptional medical/social criterion for this year, and they had previously admitted 2 or 3 kids under that in previous years, so they might be appealing too with strong cases.

SuperSue77 · 06/05/2023 12:26

@Rae247 I missed your post saying your appeal is next Friday - all the best! Hoping for another positive update the following week!

Rae247 · 06/05/2023 15:26

@SuperSue77 yes I’m sure that will increase the amount of appeals than. hoping yours is one of the winning ones then!

Ours is next Friday and I’m just wishing the days away now to get it over and done with and have answer (praying for a good one of course!) hope they don’t leave us waiting the full 7 days. I know a family who also for the same school and they had their appeal on Wed so will be interesting to see how long they wait for a reply. Will be sure to update one of my many posts with the outcome 🙏🏽🤞🏽 xxx

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