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GCSE 2022 Results - the moment of reckoning!

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Rollergirl11 · 24/08/2022 19:48

Hello everyone, here is a shiny new thread ready for DC’s results day tomorrow and a much needed hand hold for us nervous parents. 🥴🤪

Tomorrow is the culmination of an incredibly turbulent 2 year journey that our young people have had to navigate. Fraught with ups and downs. They have done us all proud!!

Here is a link to the previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/secondary/4566030-current-year-11-2-more-weeks-of-exams?page=37&reply=119483572

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MrsHamlet · 27/08/2022 11:53

@Jaxx 8 is a very good grade! Please pm me if you'd like

FrippEnos · 27/08/2022 11:56

MrsHamlet

The last time we had NEA re-moderated they did the whole cohort.
Has this changed?
As we had to get permission from all the other pupils as well.
This was sometime ago.

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2022 11:59

@FrippEnos as far as I'm aware it still has to be the cohort. I'm not sure whether there's grade protection on that. There certainly isn't with exam reviews

EngHOD · 27/08/2022 12:05

@Fiddlersgreen definitely worth looking into this. What were his school predicting him?

I’d do the following:

  1. chat with school: do they have any idea why he’d have seemingly underperformed to such an extent? Ask if this is a trend: were lots of students expecting higher grades than they received? If so, was this across the board or in DS’s class?
  2. if there is no reason for such a disparity between previous performance and exam result, ask what the marks for DS’s papers look like. Is there a big difference between papers: for instance, 60/80 achieved on one paper and 20/80 on the other. This could suggest examiner error. Ask this in relation to both Lang and Lit: the school already have this information.
  3. if the above throws up any oddities, request access to DS’s scripts. This won’t happen until 5th September but then the school can have a look and see if they think the mark scheme has been applied fairly and consistently. If they spot issues, request a review of marking. Be cautious of doing this if DS is at the bottom of the grade boundary. They can go down but that’s unlikely.

Hope that helps.

Womblesaremyfavouritefood · 27/08/2022 12:18

@MrsHamlet Presumably if the marking of the scripts are considered "reasonable" then we don't need to take it any further, and the original grade will stay as it is?

Womblesaremyfavouritefood · 27/08/2022 12:19

ie without taking it further to your Stage 2.

(Why doesn't MN have an Edit button?)

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2022 12:21

@Womblesaremyfavouritefood exactly that.

The last normal summer series we looked at about twenty in our centre and requested one for lit for review which went up hugely. It was clearly unreasonably marked the first time.

You only get the money back if the grade changes, too.

FrippEnos · 27/08/2022 12:34

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2022 11:59

@FrippEnos as far as I'm aware it still has to be the cohort. I'm not sure whether there's grade protection on that. There certainly isn't with exam reviews

Thank you, I wasn't sure.

MirandaWest · 27/08/2022 12:35

We’re also th inking about requesting a copy of one of DD's English Literature papers. She is very much a level 9 in English Lit and it was one of her three 8s (all others were 9s). It was one paper that really dragged her overall grade down.

I am a bit confused about what we need to do - does school need to request the paper or do we do that am going to call school on Tuesday to try and work it out but I feel that people here are more likely to know immediately.

Also considering the same for RE although there I think the papers were roughly consistent and it’s just that she is a few marks off a 9.

Two friends got all 9s which doesn’t help of course. Plus DS getting better than expected A Level results. And we are a comprehensive in the North of England 😃

Womblesaremyfavouritefood · 27/08/2022 12:38

@MrsHamlet You've been brilliant this morning. Many thanks for your advice.

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2022 12:39

@MirandaWest you need school to request priority access to the script(s) you want. You can't do it. Then someone in centre needs to look at it and advise whether it's worth a review. Reviews are not looking for marks though. If the marks are reasonable, they will stand.

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2022 12:55

Thanks @Womblesaremyfavouritefood :)
Always happy to help... I am nerdy about this stuff!

Purple24 · 27/08/2022 13:08

School emailed yesterday to say they had requested a review on the 2 grades DS missed by 1 mark. It's around a 6 week process. He already got into sixth form so not needed for entry criteria but one is the difference between a grade 3 and 4, the other between a grade 7 and 8. Definitely hoping the 3 goes into a 4!

NameInUseAlreadyAgain · 27/08/2022 13:23

Purple24 · 27/08/2022 13:08

School emailed yesterday to say they had requested a review on the 2 grades DS missed by 1 mark. It's around a 6 week process. He already got into sixth form so not needed for entry criteria but one is the difference between a grade 3 and 4, the other between a grade 7 and 8. Definitely hoping the 3 goes into a 4!

Here too. DS was one mark from getting a 4. School have requested a review of paper 1 Eng Lit only - I just said wanted review and paid £38.35 and assumed both papers but I guess they’ve got the marks for each paper and decided that paper 1 was the low one. Hoping for that one mark - aren’t asking much - to turn his only fail into a pass. It doesn’t matter at all as it’s not Eng Lang which he passed but seems a shame not to get a review based on 1 mark and £38.35. Fingers crossed.

i personally wouldn’t review a pass to get a higher grade just in case went down a grade. His English language he got a 4 but we weren’t given the marks for that one (doesn’t seem many around England did) and so we don’t know if he just scraped it. But it’s a pass, even though it’s just a 4! Not willing to risk it - won’t make any difference to future jobs because it’s a pass !

MirandaWest · 27/08/2022 14:06

@MrsHamlet thank you - will talk to school on Tuesday. I know it's not looking for marks but would be good for her English teacher to take a look and see whether it does look reasonable or not. DD said if he says she just did a bad paper then she'd be frustrated but at least it would be reasonable.

AnonForThisPost · 27/08/2022 14:21

I’ve been lurking on this thread to date, but wanted to comment on the AQA English literature. Like some others on this thread, DDs English Lit was lower than expected (in every other subject she did as well or better than predicted). She is at a selective independent where for every other subject 70%+ of the cohort got 9s. For Eng Lit it was c35%. School head is convinced there are issues with the marking of this paper.

sheepdogdelight · 27/08/2022 14:36

DD may be the exception that prove the rule - her AQA English Lit was actually higher than she expected (or at least she got her aspirational mark). Has to be said the questions worked out well for her - really played to her strengths.

I'd not sure how there can be an issue overall with the marking of the paper - didn't boards have to keep the grade profile in line with agreed levels (between 2021 and 2019), so presumable the "correct" number of grades of each level are being awarded? Or are you suggesting that the "wrong" children got the higher grades? I think English Lit is quite an interesting one, due to the dropping of one element at a school's choice, the results are not comparable to other years. I wonder if the grades could be skewed towards those who dropped a particular element (i.e. have all the top grades gone to those that dropped poetry and fewer to those who dropped 20C novel?) (I'm just musing; I have no inside knowledge)

House1999 · 27/08/2022 14:47

Thank you for explaining the process. Could I please check that when you refer to the centre, do you mean school?

I have asked for priority access to scrips for Business but then wondered who will look at it. I thought it would be my DD school teacher. The exam board is EDUQAS so I have to pay £11 x 2.

I have also asked for a review of RE EDUQAS as both subjects she was getting 7’s and 8’s in her mock exams. Interestingly, she had the same school teacher for both who is an examiner also.

She got grade 5 for both, unfortunately she needed these to be at least a 6 so she can do A levels. The two colleges near us only accept 5 GCSE’s at grade 5 or above and two have to be at grade 6.

She really thought she was going to get a grade 7 or 8 based on her mock exams (which were based in 2019 grade boundaries).

I’m very proud of her as she achieved grade 5 in seven GCSE’s and worked very hard and would love to do A levels.

What I’m finding difficult is that the school was closed on Friday and doesn’t reopen until 5.9.22 so no one around to discuss this with at the school.

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2022 14:55

@house yes the centre is the school. The exams officer will process the initial request. The scripts in whatever form will go to them and then someone in the centre should look first.
The review, if you decide to do that, will be done by the exam board

House1999 · 27/08/2022 15:43

MrsHamlet · 27/08/2022 14:55

@house yes the centre is the school. The exams officer will process the initial request. The scripts in whatever form will go to them and then someone in the centre should look first.
The review, if you decide to do that, will be done by the exam board

Thank you

Porcupineintherough · 27/08/2022 18:33

@AnonForThisPost interesting. Ds1 did AQA English lit and came in a couple of grades below what was expected. He did OK though and it was his weakest subject so we are leaving it.

NameInUseAlreadyAgain · 27/08/2022 19:24

AnonForThisPost · 27/08/2022 14:21

I’ve been lurking on this thread to date, but wanted to comment on the AQA English literature. Like some others on this thread, DDs English Lit was lower than expected (in every other subject she did as well or better than predicted). She is at a selective independent where for every other subject 70%+ of the cohort got 9s. For Eng Lit it was c35%. School head is convinced there are issues with the marking of this paper.

Here the same

NancyJoan · 27/08/2022 19:52

@Alsoplayspiccolo I remember you from the start of this series of threads. Our DC are at different Indy school in the same city, I believe. Same story with my DD’s Eng Lit.

Alsoplayspiccolo · 27/08/2022 22:01

That’s interesting to hear, NancyJoan. So not here say, then.

(I dropped off this thread early on, as my DD took A levels this summer and I couldn’t keep up with both threads.)

MaryJoLisa · 28/08/2022 01:12

DD's English was also hugely off from her mocks, though she sat Edexcel - went from 8 in her mocks to a 4. She's gutted as felt it had gone well, so v confused as to how she misjudged it so wrongly. We are not requesting a review unless school recommend it next week, she doesn't see a point as she has passed, so it's fine, but does seem v strange.