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Head of NLCS left suddenly?

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dreadingthetime · 30/04/2022 22:09

Can current parents shed light on this please?

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changedforthis1 · 01/05/2022 20:35

Name changed for this as i don't normally make it clear where my children/step children go to school...

Lots of Whatsapp conversations, as you can imagine. Thinking is that it's related to the overinflated A level results from last year that made the Sunday Times. School mounted a spirited defence at the time but even parents were taken aback. By now school will have a good idea from internal exams how this year are likely to do, and if it looks like it will be a drop down, more questions will be asked and the suspicion is that the answers won't be good.

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pkim123 · 01/05/2022 21:30

changedforthis1 · 01/05/2022 20:35

Name changed for this as i don't normally make it clear where my children/step children go to school...

Lots of Whatsapp conversations, as you can imagine. Thinking is that it's related to the overinflated A level results from last year that made the Sunday Times. School mounted a spirited defence at the time but even parents were taken aback. By now school will have a good idea from internal exams how this year are likely to do, and if it looks like it will be a drop down, more questions will be asked and the suspicion is that the answers won't be good.

NLCS was the #1 grade inflator in the country. It set such a bad example and I think did a real disservice to the students.
www.londonworld.com/education/ps21k-a-year-north-london-private-school-gave-as-for-more-than-90-of-all-2021-a-level-exams-3560102

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ChiswickFlo · 01/05/2022 21:39

Lots of private/independent schools will be in this position this year

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pkim123 · 01/05/2022 21:53

ChiswickFlo · 01/05/2022 21:39

Lots of private/independent schools will be in this position this year

I completely agree with you. Unfortunately, NLCS distinguished itself far beyond the other schools and, therefore, will again standout as results return back to trend. Again, they really didn't help themselves.

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ChiswickFlo · 01/05/2022 21:57

Yep.
Sooooo shortsighted.
Baffling, really.

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WayDownInTheHole · 01/05/2022 22:54

changedforthis1 · 01/05/2022 20:35

Name changed for this as i don't normally make it clear where my children/step children go to school...

Lots of Whatsapp conversations, as you can imagine. Thinking is that it's related to the overinflated A level results from last year that made the Sunday Times. School mounted a spirited defence at the time but even parents were taken aback. By now school will have a good idea from internal exams how this year are likely to do, and if it looks like it will be a drop down, more questions will be asked and the suspicion is that the answers won't be good.

Odd, as many Heads (not just independent, but more so perhaps) will be in this boat.

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pkim123 · 02/05/2022 08:28

WayDownInTheHole · 01/05/2022 22:54

Odd, as many Heads (not just independent, but more so perhaps) will be in this boat.

Many Heads will be in the same boat, as several schools added 30-35% percentage points to their A grades. However, NLCS went far further adding over 56% points to their A grades. All schools were wrong for doing this, but NLCS just made a complete mockery of the situation. I feel for the students and parents as this really puts the school in a bad light.

Head of NLCS left suddenly?
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TizerorFizz · 02/05/2022 14:34

It’s an interesting concept that parents care about “undeserved” grades. Mostly on MN people rejoice about high grades. It’s still unlikely their pupils are not top performers though.

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Xenia · 02/05/2022 14:38

33% A* 2019 which is typical and very good of NLCS ....and then to go to 90% on teacher assessed grades is ridiculous. What did they think they were doing? My daughter went there under the previous head and it was always one of the top schools in the country for A level grades and is very very selective but even so this is unbelievable. I was against dropping exams nationally in 2020 and 2021. I would rather more people had risked covid.

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Bobbybobbins · 02/05/2022 14:42

Wow I hadn't realised the rise was so high - that table is very enlightening. Surely a big drop for many schools this year but agree that NLCS is right up there!!

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pkim123 · 03/05/2022 17:13

TizerorFizz · 02/05/2022 14:34

It’s an interesting concept that parents care about “undeserved” grades. Mostly on MN people rejoice about high grades. It’s still unlikely their pupils are not top performers though.

Agreed. And it seems like many NLCS graduates can be successful on TikTok:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tiktok-queen-tinx-educated-in-north-london-made-in-la-c93wt67bc

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bendmeoverbackwards · 03/05/2022 17:33

33% A* grades seems quite low to me considering these are very clever girls.

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pkim123 · 03/05/2022 19:03

bendmeoverbackwards · 03/05/2022 17:33

33% A* grades seems quite low to me considering these are very clever girls.

33% for A*'s is very good if you compare it across schools in 2019.

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Quadrilingual · 03/05/2022 19:07

Wow I am shocked to read this. As a secondary teacher I find it unbelievable. Bumping to follow!

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bendmeoverbackwards · 03/05/2022 19:23

pkim123 · 03/05/2022 19:03

33% for A*'s is very good if you compare it across schools in 2019.

I disagree. This is one of the top schools in the country full of super clever girls who should all be capable of top grades.

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pkim123 · 03/05/2022 19:30

bendmeoverbackwards · 03/05/2022 19:23

I disagree. This is one of the top schools in the country full of super clever girls who should all be capable of top grades.

Okay, you disagree. What percentage of grades should be A* in a normal year where students take tests?

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pkim123 · 03/05/2022 19:43

bendmeoverbackwards · 03/05/2022 19:23

I disagree. This is one of the top schools in the country full of super clever girls who should all be capable of top grades.

Here's the data for A* grades at all top schools, just the facts:

www.londonpreprep.com/2019/08/a-level-results-2019/

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Cumbercat · 03/05/2022 19:43

ChiswickFlo · 01/05/2022 21:39

Lots of private/independent schools will be in this position this year

Don’t make the mistake of believing the narrative that this is a private school only issue. You might want to look at the statement of the HMC General Secretary given in response to the Sunday Times article. He sets out that the increase in A/A* at A level in 2021 was 16.9% in the independent sector but 21.4% in the state sector.

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bendmeoverbackwards · 03/05/2022 20:48

pkim123 · 03/05/2022 19:30

Okay, you disagree. What percentage of grades should be A* in a normal year where students take tests?

At NLCS I would expect that percentage to be very high, maybe around 60-70%. I am not talking about schools in general.

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pkim123 · 03/05/2022 20:53

bendmeoverbackwards · 03/05/2022 20:48

At NLCS I would expect that percentage to be very high, maybe around 60-70%. I am not talking about schools in general.

In 2019, the highest percentage of any school in London was less than 59%. But you think the NLCS students can get 60-70% A grades? Have you looked at the actual data? No school in London is getting 60-70% A. None. Zero.

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bendmeoverbackwards · 03/05/2022 21:05

At Henrietta Barnett (similar to NLCS in terms of the girls) 73% got A or A at A level in 2019. No data for the split between As and As though.

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pkim123 · 03/05/2022 21:12

bendmeoverbackwards · 03/05/2022 21:05

At Henrietta Barnett (similar to NLCS in terms of the girls) 73% got A or A at A level in 2019. No data for the split between As and As though.

Please click on this link, it will give you the "A*" and "A" split. NLCS is #16 in London
www.londonpreprep.com/2019/08/a-level-results-2019/

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pkim123 · 03/05/2022 21:24

bendmeoverbackwards · 03/05/2022 21:05

At Henrietta Barnett (similar to NLCS in terms of the girls) 73% got A or A at A level in 2019. No data for the split between As and As though.

And in case anyone doesn't want to click on the link here's the page, just the "A*" grades.

Head of NLCS left suddenly?
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pkim123 · 03/05/2022 21:43

Anyway, getting back to the original post, I'm hearing that the head's departure had to do with more than simply the ridiculously inflated A-level results.

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DorotheaDiamond · 03/05/2022 21:52

As an ONL I’m dying to know what’s going on!

for those hung up on % A+ do remember it does depend on how many a levels are taken. Is a school where all pupils take 3 and get 3a+ (100%) better than one where they all do 4 and get 3a+ and an A (75%)?

(sorry using + to avoid formatting issues)

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