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Thread 8 Carry on Corona Cohort: GAV give us the CAG?

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OrangeCinnamon1 · 16/08/2020 09:10

Welcome all to the 8th Thread for this year's GCSE cohort the Corona Cohort!

Some of us have been here since I started first thread back in yr10, some will be new. Everyone has been friendly and helpful in the past. It is hoped this will continue. Going forward we intend to stay in secondary so any new threads should have 'GCSE Summer 2020 Thread # : Carry on Corona Cohort' in title just to make it easier to find.

From now on our DS/DD may go down various paths so we decided not to be exclusionary and stay right here in Secondary until HQ chuck us Grin
At this precise moment in time we are awaiting GCSE results that seem to have been produced by an algorithm that also takes very little account of Teacher Centre Assessed Grades. There is an appeal process but it was changed yesterday to include mock results and coursework, then taken down again for review.
Trying to protect our young people's mental health.during this shit show , which the government claims is their priority...when they talk about wanting students back in schools/college in September...

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Devlesko · 17/08/2020 21:10

shimy

This is similar to my dd, she has learning difficulties, ADHD, Aspergers, all diagnosed by CAMHS. Two years of hell, watching her peers academically achieving whilst she struggled so much, with all core subjects gaining 2/3 in tests and mocks.
The school have been amazing and she has been very lucky to have the opportunities she has and the support.
At the end of the day, they have come through so much, just to get to this point.
The English result is fantastic and will mean that with Art and Music she should be ok for music conservatoire. I am proud she signed the petition for CAGs even though she's sure she's failed Science and Maths, whereas with the Algorithm, she'd have 4/5 (inflated like the English) Which has to be the biggest laugh of her schooling. Grin

crazycrofter · 17/08/2020 21:11

I agree that we shouldn’t be talking about private vs state school - this thread has never been like that. I have one in each and the private school one (dd who’s year 11) is on a substantial bursary - we’re not typical private school parents!. She’s already got the idea from social media that private schools have been advantaged and she’s been upset on behalf of all her friends at state schools. I don’t think she’d realised yet that the media slant on it would also potentially devalue her results too if they’re good.

Hopefully now people will feel it’s fairer although of course the whole cohort will now be told their results are devalued.

neutralintelligence · 17/08/2020 21:16

They can't let the situation be different in the different nations of the UK. They have to do in England what Wales etc have done.

Laffie · 17/08/2020 21:17

DD has received an email from school stating on Thursday they will get two sets of results and the highest ones count.

OrangeCinnamon1 · 17/08/2020 21:18

To be fair the media will say the results are devalued whatever happened ...unless they sat the actusl exam. We are exam obsessed !

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neutralintelligence · 17/08/2020 21:19

I thought they'd want to reduce the number of appeals. I will appeal any grade that is the lower of the two if the government only allocate the lower grade. Especially if other parts of the UK are allocated the higher. Why wouldn't I? Any parent will do the same because we have to advocate for our DC best interests.

FlyingPandas · 17/08/2020 21:19

This is what pisses me off, @crazycrofter. That regardless of where they went (and I agree, keep the state/private thing off the thread if we can) our Corona Consort will, for the first few years, have the 'oh, you're the ones who just got your grades allocated and didn't have to do the exams' thing following them around. Until they get more qualifications and work/life experiences under their belt, anyway.

I was one of the original GCSE 'guinea pigs' who sat that first year in 1988 and we got all the 'oh, they made GCSEs easy because you were the first year' and 'oh, they made A levels easier for your year because you were the first GCSE year' etc etc. Makes me mad that my own child will have the Corona thing casting aspersions on his achievements too.

But hey ho, we are where we are, and at least we're in a more positive place than we all were this time yesterday!

Paranoidmarvin · 17/08/2020 21:20

@Laffie my son asked if we could pick and choose. Select the high ones from cags and high ones from the computer generated ones.

I told him I don’t think so but good luck with asking that question at school Grin

stoneysongs · 17/08/2020 21:20

Interesting - are you in England @Laffie?

Laffie · 17/08/2020 21:22

Yes England, it seems too good but be true, but it definitely says that.

ealingwestmum · 17/08/2020 21:27

That is a great list Orange!

Thank you HPFA for being so quick with finding and inserting the links for us!

ealingwestmum · 17/08/2020 21:32

Jeez, if they (Ofqual AND DoE collectively) produced even the simplest of FAQs and then sense checked them BEFORE going public they would stop all the ambiguity between each other. It’s really not rocket science to get basics right!

OrangeCinnamon1 · 17/08/2020 21:34

Our education system is a bit broken crap really though...constant assessment , overworked teachers, exam heavy, overpredicting of A levels to get onto University Courses that set ridiculously high entry requirements to look good (but mostly accept because they want bums on seats) and a ridiculously elitist system of Universities to boot.
Poor kids.

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Wheresthebeach · 17/08/2020 21:36

DD's is dyslexic, and the school messed up the mocks by not putting all access arrangements in place. I was expecting to have a fight on my hands over some of her marks but feel I can relax now...phew.

MirandaWest · 17/08/2020 21:42

DS is very laid back. I had been concerned he was keeping things in but he has been fine for the past few weeks.

And he’s finally taken more of an interest in clothes Grin. DD is 14 and very much interested but it used to be like pulling teeth to get DS to consider any clothes but at last with no 6th forms here having uniforms he is embracing getting more clothes Grin

PaddingtonPaddington · 17/08/2020 21:43

So on Thursday they will get results slips but when do they get the actual GCSE certificates? Just thinking ahead...

Shimy · 17/08/2020 21:44

@FlyingPandas @Alsoplayspiccolo @Devlesko

Thank you all and fingers crossed for all of us. It’s been a long long journey with many silent tears, we still have lows sometimes but the future is so much brighter than what it was. All our kids have worked so hard in spite of their difficulties and being different. Wishing every one else lots of luck for Thursday as well. I hope Devlesko’s DD get into tat music conservertoire!

MrsHamlet · 17/08/2020 21:45

Certificates are always much later - they only come once all appeals are completed.

Devlesko · 17/08/2020 21:47

Just posted on the wrong thread.Grin

Just got email at 9.30 that Cambridge have changed their stance and dd now has 5/5 a more realistic result. She is happy to have had a good laugh about it and her friends found it very funny.

Tumbleton · 17/08/2020 21:49

Certificates usually arrive in about October / November.

FoolsAssassin · 17/08/2020 21:59

Wine Piccolo, Shimy and Panda from fellow SEN Mum first time round and it was very tough. DD took longer to come into her own than GCSE but has now. Still ups and downs but is a compact package of pure determination and keeps fighting plus has turned into a wonderful young woman.

I am grateful to Eton and in doubt the many other similar Heads who spoke up for everyone. I am confident that we can leave behind any bad feeling about the various sectors as we are better than that and I am grateful to have been part of this thread for the last two years and looking forward to going through the next steps they take with you all.

They will be dogged by the non exams for a bit but I think they are a pragmatic bunch and been through a lot and no doubt will crack onto, next stage with relief to be back.

FlyingPandas · 17/08/2020 22:00

@Devlesko bless your DD, she sounds very sensible and resilient to be able to see the funny side in all this. Well done to her Cake

MrsHamlet · 17/08/2020 22:01

www.gov.uk/government/news/gcse-and-a-level-students-to-receive-centre-assessment-grades

Sorry to drop this one on you. CAGs this week. "Results" next week.

whoamitojudge · 17/08/2020 22:02

@Tumbleton Do the certificates get posted to our houses or do they have to collect from school?

FoolsAssassin · 17/08/2020 22:05

Thanks Mrs Hamlet. Well 😂

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