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Thread 8 Carry on Corona Cohort: GAV give us the CAG?

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OrangeCinnamon1 · 16/08/2020 09:10

Welcome all to the 8th Thread for this year's GCSE cohort the Corona Cohort!

Some of us have been here since I started first thread back in yr10, some will be new. Everyone has been friendly and helpful in the past. It is hoped this will continue. Going forward we intend to stay in secondary so any new threads should have 'GCSE Summer 2020 Thread # : Carry on Corona Cohort' in title just to make it easier to find.

From now on our DS/DD may go down various paths so we decided not to be exclusionary and stay right here in Secondary until HQ chuck us Grin
At this precise moment in time we are awaiting GCSE results that seem to have been produced by an algorithm that also takes very little account of Teacher Centre Assessed Grades. There is an appeal process but it was changed yesterday to include mock results and coursework, then taken down again for review.
Trying to protect our young people's mental health.during this shit show , which the government claims is their priority...when they talk about wanting students back in schools/college in September...

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Devlesko · 16/08/2020 21:21

What's NEA?

So with coursework related and practical subjects will it go by teacher assessment for that part, as no mocks done. I know mine had handed everything in and believe sent to the board.
School is usually high performing and the classes are 15 and under.

Wheresthebeach · 16/08/2020 21:25

I think they will announce CAG's can be used to appeal tomorrow. (You can replace 'think' with 'pray' if you wish...)

FlyingPandas · 16/08/2020 21:29

@Wheresthebeach I’m thinking/praying with you.

Fiddlersgreen · 16/08/2020 21:34

Maybe they will announce at 11.45pm like last night Hmm

Wheresthebeach · 16/08/2020 21:36

God knows I’m not sleeping so may do a check at midnight....

Monkey2001 · 16/08/2020 21:38

I am also correcting all the people on FB who are saying it is private v state, although my DSs both went to comprehensives. This algorithm is just a blunt tool for any schools with variable results.

Piggy shame on Cambridge for not looking beyond these results which are now widely known to be grossly inaccurate.

GCSE students have an even stronger basis to demand CAGs than A level students as OFQUAL are only claiming that half of the grades will be correct within 1 grade of where they should be. Let me remind you of the graph I posted earlier:

Thread 8 Carry on Corona Cohort: GAV give us the CAG?
Shimy · 16/08/2020 21:38

Thanks Singing. This is a time for everyone to stand together but the media will no doubt love a bus fight.

Hoping we all wake up to good news.

MrsHamlet · 16/08/2020 22:05

@Devlesko in England, the boards specifically did not ask for NEA. There was no exam series and therefore no one to moderate it. If it was in and marked, as Mine were, I counted them in how I came to the CAG.
According to the appeal info yesterday, we could use those as the basis of an appeal. But who knows now

itsgettingweird · 16/08/2020 22:11

Will secondary's be giving CAG out too? Can we request them?

I 100% trust da school will have given an accurate judgement based on everything.

But it'll be hard to know what to make of final results if you don't know what they were entered as.

Shimy · 16/08/2020 22:13

Thank you Monkey. It’s weird how fast propaganda spreads. I just finished speaking to a family friend who said, ‘Well you have nothing to worry about, it doesn’t affect private schools’Hmm. Took ages explaining that we’re all in the same boat.

whoamitojudge · 16/08/2020 22:20

What does NEA stand for?

OrangeCinnamon1 · 16/08/2020 22:23

@whoamitojudge None Examined Assessment ...coursework that usually counts towards final grade. I.e Composition Coursework for Music GCSE

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whoamitojudge · 16/08/2020 22:25

@OrangeCinnamon1 Thank you Smile

RedskyAtnight · 16/08/2020 22:25

Statement from the DfE
"Hundreds of thousands of students have received a calculated grade that will enable them to progress into the next stage of their education or into work.

We have been clear that we want to build as much fairness into the appeals process as possible to help young people in the most difficult cases and have been working with Ofqual to achieve that.

Ofqual continues to consider how best to deliver the appeals process to give schools and pupils the clarity they need."

don't think we'll get anything else tonight Sad

Monkey2001 · 16/08/2020 22:28

Strong article in The Guardian - headteacher uniting to call for CAGs.
www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/16/boris-johnson-urged-to-intervene-as-exam-results-crisis-grows

MarmiteCrumpet25 · 16/08/2020 22:29

My DD’s composition wasn’t submitted but she had top marks for performance - will that be counted for her music GCSE do you think? State school with cohort of 9. She got a 9 in the mock too but her composition was no where near ready to be submitted. Very worried as her new sixth form music scholarship is reliant on this. Thanks.

OrangeCinnamon1 · 16/08/2020 22:29

@RedskyAtnight

Statement from the DfE "Hundreds of thousands of students have received a calculated grade that will enable them to progress into the next stage of their education or into work.

We have been clear that we want to build as much fairness into the appeals process as possible to help young people in the most difficult cases and have been working with Ofqual to achieve that.

Ofqual continues to consider how best to deliver the appeals process to give schools and pupils the clarity they need."

don't think we'll get anything else tonight Sad

Well that was a pointless shitty smuggy piece of nothing.
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OrangeCinnamon1 · 16/08/2020 22:30

Not you obs them @redskyatnight

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RedskyAtnight · 16/08/2020 22:33

Hey it only took them all day to come up with this. Just imagine what they could do if they had, I dunno, 5 months, to come up with something really clever ...

Monkey2001 · 16/08/2020 22:34

If they do anything other than CAGs it will be cutting their nose to spite their face - so much work for teachers and exam boards to process appeal, so much cost which could be better spent elsewhere when confirming CAGs for all would be very little work.

OrangeCinnamon1 · 16/08/2020 22:34

@marmitecrumpet25 sounds like she is top of cohort anyhow. It surely would have formed part of CAG considerations. What does she have to get to get in ?

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Monkey2001 · 16/08/2020 22:35

.... of course CAGs was a big job, but has been done now.

Janie74 · 16/08/2020 22:36

Does anyone have access to the Telegraph? There’s an article saying that senior Ofqual staff want a u-turn - but I can’t read it because of the paywall.

Monkey2001 · 16/08/2020 22:40

Coverage on Westminster Hour on R4 tonight

Janie74 · 16/08/2020 22:44

mobile.twitter.com/ninabassalian/status/1295112622954741763/photo/1

I found a copy of the front page but I don’t know if the link will work.