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GCSEs Summer 2020 (thread 4) -the final countdown

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PostNotInHaste · 28/02/2020 12:23

Thread 3
Thread 2
Thread 1(year 10)

Hope OrangeCinnamon doesn’t mind me starting another in her absence , feel twitchy without ! Apologies in advance if I have messed the links up.

The last thread ended with discussion of possible school closures, not really what we want to hear at this point - let’s hope things sound more positive as thread progresses.

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ProggyMat · 08/03/2020 12:08

DD cooks a fab roast lunch!
My worry for her - thinking about uni-is that she seems to have no concept of how much money she will have when on a student loan Grin
In regards to the last push for GCSE, apart from finishing subject syllabus, I think reflecting on what worked well during mock revision and the papers themselves and then a focus on what did not go well and how to improve on those areas as they enter the revision proper stage.

OrangeCinnamon · 08/03/2020 12:12

Thanks PostNotinHaste yes I think slow and steady and pacing is the mantra!

It was my dream to go to a sixth form boarding college when younger (I was one if those girls obsessed with Enid Blyton Mallory towers etc) so lovely to hear about your DS plans. It is amazing what they can do when left to own devices

PostNotInHaste · 08/03/2020 12:17

It’s a bit strange as DH got chucked into one and had an awful time.full boarding and he wasn’t particularly well either. So I have always been pretty anti it and this is last thing I expected! He wasn’t particularly keen on looking because of the boarding but is now glad he did and seems to be ok/ kind of keen.

Have told him if at any time he changes his mind that’s fine and we will look at ways to work round the boarding aspect.

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mumoftwodc · 08/03/2020 12:21

I've just read the following from one of the Coronavirus boards about exams so have cut and paste it below. The exams in this household are stressful enough already and now I'm worrying about what may happen. Our school has not made one reference about the virus to parents so I am concerned that they will not be prepared. The below is what was posted:

  Just see this article in today's Sunday Times:

Exam boards are drawing up plans to delay GCSEs and A-levels amid predictions that the coronavirus epidemic will be at its height as the exam season starts, forcing mass closures of schools.

The boards, working with the exam regulator, Ofqual, are planning “for a range of scenarios”. One is understood to involve looking at predictions of the rise in cases and considering alternative exam dates. A decision is expected shortly. GCSEs and A-level exams are due to start on May 11 and finish in mid-June.

In an attempt to reassure teenagers, Ofqual is planning to waive rules to help those who miss some exams because they fall ill or their school is closed. Any who underperform because of the virus will be awarded “special consideration” grades, in the widest application to date of the concessions, which were applied to pupils caught up in the Grenfell fire disaster.

Those unable to take an exam will be graded based on earlier papers. For candidates who sit the paper but whose performance is affected because they are ill, marks can be adjusted.

“We recognise that students, parents, schools and colleges will be concerned about the possible impact of coronavirus on the 2020 summer exam series,” the exam regulator said this weekend. “Our advice is to continue to prepare for exams as normal . . . Our overriding priorities are fairness and keeping disruption to a minimum.”

At least 40 schools with suspected victims have closed in recent weeks, despite official instructions to the contrary. Head teachers have described the situation as “an unprecedented challenge” and reported that a growing number of parents are keeping children out of school.

Geoff Barton, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), the moderate teachers’ union, has called for school league tables, which record exam results and attendance figures, to be suspended.

He said anxiety levels were high, with some parents keeping children at home. Asthmatic children and those with diabetes or receiving treatment for illnesses such as cancer are thought to be particularly vulnerable.

On Friday the education secretary, Gavin Williamson, will give a speech to the ASCL. He is expected to praise head teachers for staying calm and doing everything they can to help children revise and keep exams on track.

“The main focus for heads is how do we keep young people calm and stop them thinking the exams are not going to happen,” said Barton. “The level of anxiety among children is significant. They know their A-level grades are needed for university. We want to try to give them a chance to sit these exams as normal. It seems dystopian but we may need to bus children between centres if some schools are closed. In primary schools if someone sneezes, children are asking can they move to sit by someone else. Parents are keeping their children at home.”

Private schools are training teachers and pupils on software so that they can offer “e-lessons” and revision sessions online if pupils have to stay at home, though many children do not have their own laptops.

Some university heads argue that while GCSEs could be moved to September relatively easily, A-levels are too important to delay.

Sir Anthony Seldon, vice-chancellor of Buckingham University and a former master of Wellington College, said: “Nothing matters more than safety, but everything must be done to try to make certain that A-level exams can take place. So much hinges on A-level results.

“If there has to be slippage, would it be so bad if GCSEs were held in September? Schools and colleges will still take young people into sixth forms. Also, the numbers taking A-levels is much smaller than GCSEs, so the safety element would be less high.”

Delays to the issuing of the A-level results in August would cause turmoil for sixth formers and universities. Institutions could have to delay the start of the academic year or rely more heavily on applicants’ GCSE results and other information in applications to allocate places.

Nick Hillman, director of the Higher Education Policy Institute, warned that any disruption could have lasting consequences. “My biggest concern would be if there were one group of young people whose education was severely disrupted by a pandemic to the extent that they are unable to take a full suite of qualifications,” he said. “It will be hard for them to explain that on their CVs for decades to come.”

Wheresthebeach · 08/03/2020 16:37

Moving to September would be a nightmare. Imagine trying to get back up to speed. Grade boundaries would have to drop dramatically. Frankly if we're at that point I'd prefer them to go on predicted/mocks.

RedskyAtnight · 08/03/2020 16:43

Predicted/mocks results would be equally rubbish for lots of DC though Wheresthebeach. It would completely invalidate all the work that many would have done in the latter part of Year 11 to bring their grades up (yes, I freely admit my DC is in this category). Not to mention that there is zero consistency between predicted grades and mock results across schools.

Trouble is there is no ideal solution. Moving to September exams, but perhaps letting DC have an extended holiday now and opening schools across what would normally be the summer holiday is no worse than others. Still doesn't fix the issue of what happens with Post 16 study though - making exams later would have a knock on effect for timings for the whole of this cohort.

Wheresthebeach · 08/03/2020 16:51

@RedskyAtnight - yeah...we'd feel the pain on some subjects, that's for sure. My concern is a summer of stress constantly revising for exams in September would mean that they wouldn't have a proper break at all, and then straight in to another year. I can't imagine exams in September would reflect ability either. Some kids would study, some wouldn't.

crazycrofter · 08/03/2020 16:53

This is an awful scenario! Dd has a summer full of plans! I feel so sad at the thought of her missing all that! I really don’t know what the best option is!

ScrapThatThen · 08/03/2020 17:00

I think September exams would simply mean losing those young people desperate to leave education and leaving them without any GCSE results at all. And hugely unfair on all the students, teachers and their families. I hope they will be allowed to take them on schedule, in school, a metre apart, and with special arrangements for those who are unwell and might need to take them later. Close the schools by all means, but let exams go ahead.

Wheresthebeach · 08/03/2020 17:05

Frankly I'd let Y11's and Y13 study from home if they want. Limit their risk, and keep exam timetable as in. but there isn't a good answer right now.

Alsoplayspiccolo · 08/03/2020 18:04

I can't bring myself to think about September exams, or using predicted grades, or mock results, or...It's just too awful to contemplate.

In actual fact, DD did well overall in mocks, but she's working so hard right now and is hopeful she'll do even better in May/June. I can't imagine having to keep her going for even a month longer than planned, let alone over the summer break.

Surely the whole country isn't going to come to a stand still? Year 11 and year 13 just make up a tiny % of the population, so there has to be a viable way of running the exams at the right time, or very close to.

On the one hand, were being told not to panic and to carry on as normal, but on the other hand they're suggesting this will be far from a normal exam year.

OrangeCinnamon · 08/03/2020 20:21

I can't think past next week with regard to cv at present. I'm arranging a PhD viva with examiner from Italy and I just need to pull that off so it all goes smoothly no matter if they end up in room or not. I don't want anything to go wrong for the student so please keep your fingers crossed next week all.

mumoftwodc · 08/03/2020 21:09

@Alsoplayspiccolo we're in the same boat here. Mocks pretty much matched predicted grades but so much effort has been put in since the beginning of the year in the hope of upping grades.

We have plans for the summer too so will just have to hope the spread of the virus isn't as bad as predicted.

ProggyMat · 08/03/2020 21:24

@Alsoplayspiccolo I could not agree more!
My tuppence worth, after reading the article, is that Ofqual are preparing a range of scenarios based on wether the predictions of the rise in cases for the UK materialises.
If there is to be any slippage in exams dates , A levels as far as Universities are concerned, should take precedent and GCSEs be moved to later date.
It’s a waiting game at the moment but I’m of the opinion if the UK outbreaks matches ‘the pattern of prediction’ over next week then we could see closures.
Which means an earlier than planned Easter break?

Hopeful201 · 08/03/2020 21:47

I'm petrified they use predicted grades, my DS didn't revise but has worked very hard since. I am hoping that the schools stay open for exams only, then it might just work :-)

Darbs76 · 08/03/2020 21:53

It’s such a worry. My DS has good predicted grades and good mocks but it’s really not fair to do that. I think pushing forward the exams to the summer would be the only fair solution. I had a text earlier to say one of my staff’s daughter’s friends has been confirmed with CV. Getting so real and scary.

KingscoteStaff · 08/03/2020 22:07

Well if the schools shut, all the students can be sent to those nice healthy fields to pick vegetables and fruit.

PostNotInHaste · 09/03/2020 06:53

For goodness sake Kingscote, don’t give them any ideas 😃

It’s obviously very difficult and a big extra load of stress on top of an already stressful time. But,we are where we’re at, it’s a fluid situation that may well keep changing so I guess we present a calm face to them and then moan like fuck on here. And eat chocolate.

I think it’s worse for those doing A levels now as once our lot go on to do A levels, BTECs etc they supersede the GCSE’s. Obviously it’s far from ideal but sod all we can do apart from be ready to adapt to whatever we have to and make the best of it. Am aware there are some on here with double whammy of year 11 and 13, FlowersBrewWine

With the Cobra meeting today things may be looking different by end of day. Probably best to encourage them to bring back as many books as they can carry just to be on safe side.

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sansou · 09/03/2020 08:27

I've been distracted by the CV threads - it certainly puts GCSE exams in perspective!

DS has air cadets overnight trip this weekend plus a school trip to the theatre next week so still fairly busy extra curricular wise. Still tons of HW so has very little time for revision of previous work - I think ALL the subjects are trying to finish their syllabuses before the end of March. Last Eng Lit mock scheduled for the end of March. No point worrying too much over whether the exams will be put back.

Que sera sera...

Piggywaspushed · 09/03/2020 08:57

It's the before the end of March bit that does worry me, must admit...

What happens if March vanishes, educationally?

Need to start meditating.

Seeline · 09/03/2020 08:59

DD had a bit of a meltdown last week as she is still getting so much homework and can't revise like she wants to. Things improved on Friday when one of her lovely teachers brought homemade cupcakes in for the whole class to celebrate finishing the syllabus!

Looking forward a bit this week as she is going out for a meal with the other prospective new girls joining the boys school 6th form in September with the 6th form staff. One of several events designed to get the girls bonding before letting the boys loose on them Grin

Trying not to think about the exams with both DC involved (Y11 and 13) ......

AnneOfCleavage · 09/03/2020 09:14

It's been at the back of my mind since talk of moving exams back that our summer plans will be scuppered. We've two holidays planned and paid for at the end of June and end of July. A few of her friends have got NCS booked similar time and I would have thought lots of post GCSE holidays would have been booked so know it would affect lots of us if exams were to move. GCSEs are more important though so we'd have to forego the holidays Sad

Teachers and exam markers will also have booked time off to allow for marking so this would scupper them too and it may be hard to get new adjudicators in if moved to later in the summer if they have families off on school summer break.

Fingers crossed they have put hand wash in the loos at school today - I've told DD to complain loudly if not as CV or not it's a basic requirement for schools to have adequate hand washing facilities.

Wheresthebeach · 09/03/2020 10:09

@AnneOfCleavage dear God hand wash needs to be in all loos - how concerning. I’d suggest sending her in with hand gel but clearly that’s not possible these days unless you already have some.

I guess there would have to be some sort of government scheme to refund on holidays if they couldn’t be taken.

I’m worried that dd being asthmatic would taken forever to get over it and if she was sitting exams in recovery phase it would be a train wreck. Not to mention just being worried about how badly she’d be affected if she got it. I’ve been told repeatedly how important it is for her to have the flu jab so these are worrying times.

MirandaWest · 09/03/2020 10:46

Had an email from school about Science revision classes - think they are taking the head in the sand approach about corona virus but will “encourage” DS to go, especially for Chemistry.

AnneOfCleavage · 09/03/2020 11:46

Wheresthebeach tell me about it. She does have hand gel but it's the Primark fun type like 'Pink Lemonade' or similar so not sure how good it is but it would suffice in the place of nothing for sure.

Our after school revision classes have been put on hold this week whilst they mark the latest mocks so hopefully DD will be a little less exhausted as not much home revision going on as so overworked with actual h/w. She's going through past maths papers with DH too.