Things you wished you had known about the 11 plus process

[Goposie]

For me, that the numbers applying are crazy and the sheer odds stacked against getting in.

“It’s just one big Tinder”

Yes! Best to face up to that fact sooner rather than later. Realism gives us all the best chance of ending up somewhere we actually want to be. We all need to understand the underlying algorithms of our life paths.

“We all need to understand the underlying algorithms of our life paths.”

At 10????

At 10 you are a child and so you will largely depend upon your parents’ ability to understand the underlying algorithm. But any DC doing any sort of entrance process or test will have a good taste of algorithm universe

So the algorithm is - if you are privileged you get more privilege. If you aren’t-tough.
Back to All Things Bright and Beautiful.

Dione Well said.

Person A does the local history stuff at half term.
Person B goes to Alton Towers.
Person A takes time to do the homework with their child every night.
Person B sticks on the tv or gives the child an iPad.
Person A buys books and educational materials for use at home.
Person B buys game apps.

Who gets into the selective school? Who knows, but Person A has tried their best and has instilled a work ethic and an appreciation of knowledge and of learning. Useful and important tools. Person B is either lucky (inc naturally talented) or fails but doesn’t have the tools.

BertrandRussell

At 10????

Yes at 10. It’s inbuilt. Kids know it at 4. They tell on each other and like to win.

Christ deadman! You have no business stooping to personalised abuse.

Deadmansdrop-if it’s all about innate intelligence, why is the socio-economic make up of grammar schools and secondary modern schools in the same catchment so strikingly different?

Hahhahaha! The same few have been abusive throughout the thread, telling us we don’t give a damn about others if our kids are brighter than theirs, just to try and cover for their kids not getting in.

And I’ve never said it’s all about innate intelligence, there you go again deflecting from the fact some think you failed as a parent.

Fucksake. Call a spade a spade.

Fair enough, deadmansdrop. Happy to discuss further if you like. Feel free to report any “abuse” i’ve posted. I’d prefer yours to be left up -it’s quite educational in its way!

It’s always someone else’s fault with some isn’t it? Blame the system, blame the teachers, blame the other parents, blame the kids.

We didn’t blame anyone, just got in with it and succeeded.

Also happy to call a spade a spade. People like grammar schools because they think it’ll keep their children away from the plebs.

Dear me.

People like grammar schools because they think it’ll keep their children away from the plebs.

😂

OK then.

Sorry- missed out “some”. Some people......

So agree with borntobequiet. Look around us now . . Everywhere the end results of years of I’m (or My Kids are) all right Jack, stuff everyone else’s. More respect and communication between people of contrasting backgrounds and abilities is what this country needs so much . . . And does anyone think a highly selective education system is the best way to foster it?.

Also agree. At our local comp we have the children of doctors, uni profs, journalists, head teachers and teachers, etc. We also have traveller children, children in care and SEN kids. We have kids getting 4A* at A Level and going on to Oxbridge.

You want to blame schools for how you bring up your kids now? Are you seriously saying they don’t speak to contrasting abilities because there aren’t any in the school?!

Seriously?

Do you volunteer anywhere with your children? Do they help with children of contrastive abilities? Do you seek out people from other backgrounds? We do all of these things.

Why are you saying schools should parent your children in these aspects? It’s just excuses, grasping at straws to try and bring down a system you don’t like but you are making yourself look fools now.

Deadmansdrop-I don’t think you’re making sense....

Then there is no hope for you. You just want to blame blame blame.

Good luck! 😁

Deadmansdrop - ask all your questions to the kids in local authority care...

Fucksake.

The drama of it all.

No wonder the kids aren’t succeeding. The chips on their shoulders must be so big they can’t see where they are going because people like you greentent are treating them as second best.

Do you want to discuss or do you just want to shout? Feel free to shout at me- i’m fine with that. Discussion is more interesting, though.